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This is Cameron Crowe,
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And this is the audio commentary track
for Untitled
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the movie that became Almost Famous.
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I will make no apologies, up front,
for this being a personal reminiscence.
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Should be fun.
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With me here,
Scott Martin from Vinyl Films...
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Hello.
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...Andy Fisher from Vinyl Films ...
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Hello.
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...Ivan Corona, our family friend ...
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Hey. How you doing?
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...and we have Mark Atkinson
from DreamWorks over there,
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and our special guest star,
Alice Crowe, my mom.
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There she is. Live and in person.
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So I figured
there was two ways to do this.
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One would be
the mystique-filled, shrouded,
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no-actual-facts-being-revealed version.
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Or we could just be blatantly open
about what created the movie,
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and how we did it,
and where it all came from.
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By the way,
I'm very proud of this title: Untitled.
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Anyway, so of course we're going to go
for the embarrassingly personal approach
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'cause that was always my favorite thing
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about the music I loved
and movies that I loved.
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And thank you, Frances, for getting
the joke of the misspelling of your name.
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But this is a very important movie to me.
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It was hard for us to make,
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but we basically went home every night
in disbelief
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over our good fortune to be able to do it,
so here we are reliving it.
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These are all my old backstage passes
and stuff.
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That Who pass actually has my name on it.
But freeze-frame. That's what it's for.
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This title sequence is an homage
to To Kill a Mockingbird
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which we mention in the movie.
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I always loved the title sequence
to To Kill a Mockingbird
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Music's by Nancy Wilson,
my wife, who is so brilliant.
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And all these things are real artifacts
because my family--
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And this begins with my mom--
we've always been pack rats.
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We save everything. Am I right?
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Yes. Family curse.
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So we finally found a purpose
for all this stuff.
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Those are some of my old notes
from journalism.
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I think it was a story on Jethro Tull.
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Like I say, shamelessly personal.
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That's what our little trip
through the audio commentary is gonna be.
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These are shots of San Diego,
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where my family moved
when I was pretty young.
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That's Balboa Park.
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That's where Granny and Grandpa
spent their honeymoon.
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-Really? Balboa Park? Wow.
-Balboa Park. Right there.
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I think we're in Pacific Beach now.
Here's Ocean Beach.
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By the way, Clay Griffith,
who was unable to get the credit
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as production designer
because of his relative newcomer status,
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did an amazing job
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and he shares that credit with
Clayton Hartley, who was the art director.
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But let's just say
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Clay did a tour de force job
on every little detail in the movie.
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So we hail you, Clay.
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Here is OB, Ocean Beach,
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where I did a lot of body surfing
and we all hung out.
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And here we are in Pacific Beach, Mom.
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One of my favorite scenes
that you cut half of it.
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My favorite scene.
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This one?
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Yes, when the man's writing on the...
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-On the window?
-Yeah, on the window there.
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You know, that's coming up.
I put that back in.
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Oh, is it? Oh, wonderful. Thank you.
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Good. This is a tribute to my mom, who--
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Oh, by the way, yes,
Stolen Kisses, Don't Look Back,
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and also Best Years of Our Lives
were real.
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That's the Strand Theatre.
The old Strand Theatre.
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We used to go there
and throw balls up on the stage--
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Kleenex balls up on the screen.
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-We did?
-Yes, we did.
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Was that where we saw
Bring Me the Head of Alfredo Garcia
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and you stood up and said,
"Bring me the head of Sam Peckinpah"?
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-I think so.
-Could be.
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Anyway, this scene is a tribute to my mom
because my mom could never handle "Xmas."
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-That's right.
-Yeah, she thought it was just wrong.
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It's "Happy Holidays"
or "Merry Christmas."
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-What's "X," right?
-Yes, that's right.
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-Okay, we have confirmation.
-Doesn't mean a thing.
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Boy, I love Zooey Deschanel.
She did such a great job playing Anita.
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My daughter, Cindy.
She looks just like her.
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I know.
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And that's pretty much
one of your dresses, isn't it,
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-that Frances is wearing?
-That's right.
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You used to wear those
kind of peasant muumuu things.
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-Very '60s.
-It's great.
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This scene actually happened.
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-It's true.
-Actually happened.
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She looked in the mirror to see
if her lips were puffy and they were.
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But we never could figure out
if you actually knew
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how to tell that they'd been kissing.
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Yeah, her lips were puffy.
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Yeah. She was mystified
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Now, do you remember this?
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You really did feel Simon & Garfunkel
were on pot.
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I admit to nothing.
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Paul Simon did an interview on CNN
and they played this scene,
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and he said that you may have been right.
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Yeah, I did. I finally admit it.
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The wicked, wicked thing is that you saw
Simon & Garfunkel play "Mrs. Robinson"
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on The Smothers Brothers Show,
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and you wrote a letter to NBC
and you said,
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"Jesus loves you
more than you will know.'
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They're saying that in a sarcastic way."
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That's true. I got a letter of apology
from the president.
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Wow. Well, it took us
a few years, but hopefully--
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-But I embraced them later on.
-Really?
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-Oh, yes.
-They're great.
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You are trying to raise us
in a "no" environment.
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-". .. In a 'No' environment."
-Oh, that sounds familiar.
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Now, Mom, was it weird
seeing this movie for the first time?
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Oh, yes. Imagine when your children--
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You've got little twin boys,
Billy and Curtis.
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Imagine that what you're telling them now
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is going to be shown on the screen
if they become screenwriters
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and you're going to sit in a big theater
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and you're going to hear
your words coming back at you.
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-It's scary.
-Really?
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I better get ready.
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But this-- I always love this
because you and I were always--
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We always could bond
over intellectual intricacies,
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and that's what
the end of that scene is for me.
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But then of course, rock and roll must go.
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But you were my ally, and I needed one.
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But the movie did bring
you and Cindy together.
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-Yes. That's right.
-Brought our family together.
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-So let's just say that.
-I just talked to her yesterday.
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I think... I always felt...
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-Oh, I love this scene.
-You skipped me grades, man.
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This happened.
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I actually thought I'd be appealing
to girls. It never quite worked.
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These were key years to have skipped.
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-But this happened.
-I'm so glad you kept this in.
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Thanks.
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How old are you, man?
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I'm a little sorry that
it actually happened in real life, but...
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Yeah, that's right.
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There was a guy named--
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Well, I can't say his first name
because who knows,
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but his last name was Tobin.
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I had 'em.
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He just ridiculed me for being younger...
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I shaved them off
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"I shaved 'em off." I love it.
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...and for me being slower
in the pubes department than he was.
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He was an adenoidal freak, this guy.
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But I always remember his face
just screwed up
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in some insane expression going,
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"Don't you know? Don't you know?
You're so young. Don't you know?"
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And it was like,
"Wow. Why the anger, man?"
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Anyway, I always remembered this car,
which is our country sedan.
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Yes, white.
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A white country sedan, which John Toll,
the esteemed cinematographer...
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-There it is.
-.. .who we hail ,
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he doesn't like to shoot white.
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So, under great duress,
John shot this white car.
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-Thank you, John.
-Beautifully. Thank you, John.
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And I want to say
a lot of things about John Toll.
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But this scene actually happened.
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Ouch.
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-I know you had the best intentions.
-Busted.
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Cindy just wanted to bring it all out.
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And my memory of it is the shot
that you're gonna see from the back seat,
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which was a combination of--
I don't know--
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I kind of had a Coen Brothers
look at the world from that back seat.
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And I remember this.
I remember those seats, too.
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It was so great
to get all the details right.
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Although sometimes I think
the crew behind my back were saying--
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There it is. That's what I remember.
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Sometimes I think the crew,
when I'd go to, like, 18 takes
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of somebody saying
some inconsequential thing,
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they'd kind of look at each other and say,
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"You know,
therapy might have been a little cheaper."
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You're ! !.
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-There it is.
-Yeah.
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Eleven?
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Joe Hutshing, our wonderful editor,
Saar Klein, Mark Livolsi ,
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we worked really--
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Yeah, we worked really hard on this scene.
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You know, when does the kid scream,
and how loud, and all that stuff.
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-And we went for loud.
-Here he goes.
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This explains so much.
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This was one of those days we were
just parked by the side of the road,
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I think, in the Valley doing this scene.
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But, Cameron, it wasn't my fault
that you skipped the fifth grade.
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You went to the classroom
and someone had switched the signs--
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The fifth and sixth grade--
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And ten days later, you said,
"Mom, I'm in the sixth grade,"
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and I said, "No, you're not.
You're in the fifth grade."
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You said, "I'm in the sixth grade."
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I said, "Oh, my God.
They must have made a mistake.
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Did you like it? Are you doing okay?
You've made some friends now."
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And he says, "I like it."
And I said, "Do you want to stay or not?"
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He said, "I want to stay."
And that's what happened.
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-That was the third bump.
-Yeah, that was the third grade I skipped.
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But do you remember saying to me,
"Go to Europe, take a look around"?
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-That's verbatim. Exactly what I said.
-"Follow your dream."
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How did you remember?
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Oh, you know,
it's only indelibly marked in my psyche.
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But you did go to Europe
and you did take a look around.
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Yeah, I did,
with Led Zeppelin and other bands.
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-And that's what the movie's about.
-That's right. And Irving Azoff.
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'Cause Daddy and I had to go to LA
at that time to get your passport.
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That's true. I went with the Eagles.
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That was my shirt. That's my actual shirt.
It was a competition striped shirt.
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Where's the $2Ü we used to keep
by the door for your gas money?
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In case you ran out of gas.
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I put that scene back in.
We're gonna see it a little later.
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-Okay.
-All right. Gee...
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I still don't get bossed around by my mom,
do I?
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So now, this is based on a photo
that we actually had
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when my sister was leaving the house
one day.
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She had curlers on,
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and the picture was so amazing
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because it said, "I gotta get out of here
and I'll take the curlers off in the car."
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And so that dress is beautifully captured
by Betsy Heimann,
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and the top and the hair.
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Those curlers were orange juice cans--
frozen orange juice cans that they had.
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They don't show 'em in the movie,
but in real life, she had frozen--
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That's what they used
in the '60s and '70s.
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She said to me, "One day, you'll be cool."
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And she also said ,
"Guys mature better later."
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I remember Cindy said.
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But I love this scene.
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This is also a tribute--
this guy, Darryl, is a tribute
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to a man named John Seipel who was
one of my sister's early boyfriends.
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He looked like Stephen Stills.
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He was one of the best-looking guys
I'd ever met. I remember him.
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He was a swim team captain.
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And he was Cindy's
first real hard-core boyfriend.
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And he died a couple years ago.
He died before the movie could come out.
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Which is a real shame
because we really loved John Seipel.
235
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That was the bag.
That's the exact bag. I saved it.
236
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Oh, my goodness, Cameron.
237
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Yeah, and these were
a lot of the same records.
238
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-Yes.
-I put a few back.
239
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See, it's not so bad to be a pack rat.
240
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Hell no.
241
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When you moved to LA,
I saved all your stuff.
242
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Everything was in the room
waiting for Almost Famous.
243
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Yeah, it’s true. Untitled
244
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That was the first bootleg I ever got.
That's the actual copy.
245
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I'm Happy That Y'all Came Down.
Great bootleg to any Neil fan.
246
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CSN. Jimi.
We put a few extra albums in this.
247
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Someone said, "It looks like he's fondling
Joni Mitchell in a sexual way."
248
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I said, "Come on! He's just loving Blue."
249
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You know what Freud said.
"Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar."
250
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Exactly. That's my mom.
251
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That's Elaine Miller.
252
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So, Cindy actually did do this.
Left me her records.
253
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The only one
that’s actually not time-accurate,
254
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and it's one of the few little obvious,
purposeful mistakes, was Blue.
255
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Blue came out a couple years later.
256
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But I love the album,
Joni Mitchell's Blue.
257
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Because it's personal
and it's shamelessly personal ,
258
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and it probably aches for her.
259
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And I think she says
she doesn't really listen to it that much.
260
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And I thought that's a standard to hit
for the movie. This movie's got to ache.
261
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And if you pull punches
in a coy or precious way, why do it?
262
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-Exactly.
-So it was hard, day to day,
263
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to just be a cop on yourself.
264
00:14:13,769 --> 00:14:18,106
And it’s funny how the movie turned out
to still be...
265
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worshipful in the right way.
266
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Because I think to be a fan
is an important thing
267
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and it's good to protect that,
268
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and the movie,
more than anything else to me,
269
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feels like a fan's love letter.
270
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This was a scene cut from the movie.
271
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"William Miller is too young to drive or.. ."
272
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I still can't say that word
in front of my mom.
273
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-I wouldn't.
-I wouldn't. Should I?
274
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-I shouldn't say it, right?
-No.
275
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-Okay, good.
-You don't say it.
276
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So, William Miller
is too young to drive or fuck. Oops!
277
00:14:53,975 --> 00:14:56,520
Anyway, a version of that
actually happened.
278
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And there's Laura Nyro.
279
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These are scenes I'm very proud of...
280
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with Philip Seymour Hoffman,
who plays Lester Bangs.
281
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Lester was an important guy in my life.
282
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I met him in just this way,
corresponded with him.
283
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Told me he was coming back
to his hometown, San Diego--
284
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I had the same hometown--
285
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And I met him at this radio station KPRI ,
286
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and we went back and filmed
in the exact same location,
287
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which was an insurance company.
288
00:15:33,014 --> 00:15:34,891
We refitted it to be KPRI
289
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with help from Gabriel Wisdom, who was
one of the big time DJs in San Diego.
290
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Who was a woman in this film.
291
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Now she becomes a woman, Alice Wisdom.
292
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A little tribute to my mom in there.
293
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This was The Guess Who shirt.
294
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I had The Guess Who shirt
that Lester was wearing that day
295
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because they had been
sent out to the press.
296
00:15:57,247 --> 00:15:59,207
So, that was what Lester looked like.
297
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This is what he talked about,
this live version of "American Woman."
298
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The most brilliant
piece of gobbledygook ever!
299
00:16:06,590 --> 00:16:09,759
It is the most brilliant piece
of gobbledygook ever.
300
00:16:09,843 --> 00:16:11,428
I challenge anyone to go out there
301
00:16:11,511 --> 00:16:13,847
and find Live at the Paramount--
The Guess Who.
302
00:16:13,930 --> 00:16:16,141
It's ridiculously great.
303
00:16:16,892 --> 00:16:22,022
Anyway, elsewhere on the DVD,
there'll be a little special surprise.
304
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It will be the first take that I did with
Philip Seymour Hoffman as Lester Bangs.
305
00:16:25,734 --> 00:16:27,736
There's an interesting thing
that happened.
306
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But he was channelling Lester for sure.
307
00:16:33,116 --> 00:16:36,661
Lester was there whispering over
your shoulder throughout the whole film.
308
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It's true. This was the first thing
we shot with Phil Hoffman ...
309
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who really took time out
from a very busy schedule
310
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to completely do the homework--
311
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Study Lester, study tapes of his voice.
312
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In between every take,
he'd put on a headset
313
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and be listening
to an interview with Lester.
314
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Cameron, you're such a perfectionist.
315
00:16:58,808 --> 00:17:01,102
This is the exact street
where this took place.
316
00:17:01,186 --> 00:17:02,854
-That's right.
-You would have no other.
317
00:17:02,938 --> 00:17:07,943
You went down there and checked it all out
for days till you found the exact street.
318
00:17:08,026 --> 00:17:09,486
-Yeah.
-And this is it.
319
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- You like Lou Heed?
- The early stuff
320
00:17:13,657 --> 00:17:17,702
And this was
the conversation I had with Lester.
321
00:17:17,786 --> 00:17:20,497
The one thing that he said
that’s not in the movie,
322
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or a part of it that will be in there
in this extended version,
323
00:17:23,750 --> 00:17:25,252
but one of the things he said is--
324
00:17:25,335 --> 00:17:30,966
And I realized that he was
like a rock softy, like a tough softy.
325
00:17:31,049 --> 00:17:35,095
He said, "I'm gonna go drive by the house
of my old girlfriend that broke my heart,
326
00:17:35,178 --> 00:17:36,721
so I'm a little busy today."
327
00:17:37,305 --> 00:17:40,475
And I just thought, "Wow, tough as nails,
328
00:17:40,559 --> 00:17:43,311
but he's gonna be weeping
outside his girlfriend's house
329
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in about an hour and a half."
330
00:17:49,484 --> 00:17:52,696
This was something the editors and I
tried to get right the whole time,
331
00:17:52,779 --> 00:17:55,532
which was how to transition
into the next scene,
332
00:17:55,615 --> 00:18:01,496
and finally, getting this together
for the Untitled DVD, we nailed the edit.
333
00:18:01,580 --> 00:18:02,581
So here it is coming up,
334
00:18:02,664 --> 00:18:05,250
and this is what it felt like
saying goodbye to Lester that day.
335
00:18:05,333 --> 00:18:07,377
- Goodbye.
- Yeah, goodbye.
336
00:18:12,340 --> 00:18:16,303
Oh, I love that scene.
That should have been in the video.
337
00:18:18,680 --> 00:18:20,807
-Dye.
-Dye.
338
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You need a ride?
339
00:18:31,526 --> 00:18:33,778
Ho, man, I took the bus.
340
00:18:37,282 --> 00:18:42,245
And I think there's not enough movies
that take the time to really do that.
341
00:18:42,329 --> 00:18:43,371
That's right.
342
00:18:43,455 --> 00:18:49,794
And it’s one of the great things about
being able to put the longer version out.
343
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Because it's film. We have it. It exists.
344
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And in the spirit of bootlegs,
345
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if you liked the album,
346
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you're gonna be interested
in the alternate takes
347
00:19:00,889 --> 00:19:02,349
and the extended versions.
348
00:19:03,433 --> 00:19:07,646
My only apology is that
you don't have to go to a swap meet
349
00:19:07,729 --> 00:19:09,481
or illegally purchase it.
350
00:19:11,983 --> 00:19:16,029
Because that adds to the whole
clandestine idea of a bootleg.
351
00:19:16,112 --> 00:19:17,364
But this is the bootleg.
352
00:19:17,447 --> 00:19:20,450
Almost Famous, the theatrical version,
353
00:19:20,533 --> 00:19:25,747
really is the version
that’s kind of built for the world.
354
00:19:25,830 --> 00:19:29,209
But this is the one
where you can sit at home,
355
00:19:29,292 --> 00:19:33,129
put it on pause, go get a beer,
make some phone calls, come back,
356
00:19:33,213 --> 00:19:37,092
and stay on the road with Stillwater,
go to another city.
357
00:19:37,175 --> 00:19:39,761
And that's what we went for.
358
00:19:39,844 --> 00:19:43,598
This version that you're watching
is very close to the original script.
359
00:19:43,682 --> 00:19:46,976
The original version that I saw
was about four hours long.
360
00:19:47,060 --> 00:19:48,561
Did you have to just cut it down
for pacing?
361
00:19:48,645 --> 00:19:51,356
Did they pretty much
just make you do it for pacing reasons?
362
00:19:51,439 --> 00:19:53,525
No, we started showing the movie.
363
00:19:53,608 --> 00:19:56,152
We showed an original version--
That's Ivan, by the way.
364
00:19:56,236 --> 00:19:58,029
-Hello, Ivan.
-Hey.
365
00:19:58,113 --> 00:20:00,865
We showed the original version
in San Jose,
366
00:20:00,949 --> 00:20:04,994
which was this-- pretty much this version,
367
00:20:05,078 --> 00:20:10,625
and it felt like
we were telling the story,
368
00:20:10,709 --> 00:20:16,172
but it definitely tried the patience,
a little bit, of most of the viewers.
369
00:20:16,256 --> 00:20:20,885
Because the movie was intended
to give you a feeling,
370
00:20:20,969 --> 00:20:23,221
and if you stay too long,
371
00:20:23,304 --> 00:20:26,683
that feeling
is going to be flecked with restlessness.
372
00:20:26,766 --> 00:20:30,228
And for theatrical experience,
373
00:20:30,311 --> 00:20:35,775
the two-hour-plus version that we have
really does say what I want to say,
374
00:20:35,859 --> 00:20:39,612
and it doesn't challenge you
375
00:20:39,696 --> 00:20:44,200
to pick through a lot of details
to get there.
376
00:20:44,284 --> 00:20:45,535
It's your catharsis.
377
00:20:48,580 --> 00:20:51,750
This is the best of everything we shot,
this longer version,
378
00:20:51,833 --> 00:20:57,255
and it just says,
"Okay, dig in. Let it roll ."
379
00:21:02,260 --> 00:21:04,137
Oh, memories.
380
00:21:06,639 --> 00:21:08,016
I'm dangerous in the editing--
381
00:21:08,099 --> 00:21:13,104
By the way, I love this guy who says,
"Wanna get high?" He's my favorite extra.
382
00:21:13,688 --> 00:21:14,773
Here he comes.
383
00:21:14,856 --> 00:21:16,065
You want to get high?
384
00:21:16,149 --> 00:21:20,403
Oh, do I love that guy.
Couldn't get enough of that guy.
385
00:21:23,490 --> 00:21:27,160
But I'm such a fan of details.
Like, I love studio chatter on records.
386
00:21:27,243 --> 00:21:31,039
I like to hear the producer saying,
"Take three. That guitar is out of tune."
387
00:21:31,122 --> 00:21:34,375
So I'm dangerous in the editing room.
I'll put all that stuff in.
388
00:21:34,459 --> 00:21:37,086
And we've put a lot of stuff into this.
389
00:21:38,004 --> 00:21:41,424
Here's our family doctor's children
in the background. The Rays, right?
390
00:21:42,133 --> 00:21:43,551
I whistled louder.
391
00:21:45,637 --> 00:21:49,349
-That's the way I do it. Really loud.
-Mom, do the family whistle one more time.
392
00:21:50,975 --> 00:21:52,268
Nice and loud.
393
00:21:53,436 --> 00:21:54,521
Remember, Cameron?
394
00:21:54,604 --> 00:21:56,231
Oh, I remember.
395
00:21:58,983 --> 00:22:02,153
Here's the backstage
of the San Diego Sports Arena.
396
00:22:02,237 --> 00:22:03,780
And this is the kind of scene
where they go,
397
00:22:03,863 --> 00:22:06,574
"You can find a better backstage
in Los Angeles, come on."
398
00:22:06,658 --> 00:22:09,244
But no, it had to be
the San Diego Sports Arena.
399
00:22:10,537 --> 00:22:15,875
There was a real guy named Scotty
who worked the backstage who was just--
400
00:22:15,959 --> 00:22:18,837
I mean, he just targeted me
for emotional terrorism.
401
00:22:18,920 --> 00:22:20,755
He just really didn't believe in me.
402
00:22:20,839 --> 00:22:24,551
He was a short guy with a gimp leg,
and slicked hair,
403
00:22:24,634 --> 00:22:28,054
and a face that looked like
an old Chrysler,
404
00:22:28,137 --> 00:22:31,140
and this guy
just didn't want me backstage.
405
00:22:31,224 --> 00:22:32,475
But the first time I got backstage,
406
00:22:32,559 --> 00:22:35,770
there was guy named Larry Vallon
who worked at Concert Associates,
407
00:22:35,854 --> 00:22:40,024
and it was a Black Sabbath show
and I was on the list,
408
00:22:40,108 --> 00:22:44,946
but this guy Freddy--
Scotty wouldn't let me in.
409
00:22:45,029 --> 00:22:49,033
So finally,
Larry Vallon had some sympathy.
410
00:22:49,117 --> 00:22:54,330
Big, tall, Abraham Lincoln-type guy,
worked for the promoter, came out, saw me,
411
00:22:54,414 --> 00:22:56,332
went and got
the road manager of Black Sabbath
412
00:22:56,416 --> 00:22:58,084
and got me backstage.
413
00:22:58,167 --> 00:23:01,588
So, Larry, thanks.
And the evening felt a lot like this.
414
00:23:01,671 --> 00:23:04,465
I'm a journalist. I'm not--
415
00:23:05,967 --> 00:23:07,844
Here's the introduction of Penny Lane.
416
00:23:08,595 --> 00:23:11,222
Kate Hudson. Hello. Hello.
417
00:23:13,600 --> 00:23:15,143
You're not a what?
418
00:23:15,226 --> 00:23:18,438
I'm not a... groupie.
419
00:23:19,272 --> 00:23:21,399
-I love that coat.
-I know. It's great.
420
00:23:21,482 --> 00:23:25,069
-And it's July, it's summer.
-That's right. The coat is in summer.
421
00:23:25,153 --> 00:23:29,115
The coat,
which Betsy Heimann put together--
422
00:23:29,198 --> 00:23:31,784
Oh, she's wonderful.
She's the best in the world.
423
00:23:31,868 --> 00:23:33,745
-She's great.
-Oh, Betsy.
424
00:23:33,828 --> 00:23:35,246
We love Betsy.
425
00:23:35,330 --> 00:23:40,376
The coat really is a combination of
an homage to the girls of the time
426
00:23:40,460 --> 00:23:42,253
who would hang out
at the Continental Hyatt House
427
00:23:42,337 --> 00:23:45,089
and also-- I'll tell you a secret--
428
00:23:45,173 --> 00:23:49,719
It is mostly a tribute
to Fran Kubelik's coat in The Apartment,
429
00:23:49,802 --> 00:23:53,056
which is my favorite movie,
along with To Kill a Mockingbird
430
00:23:53,139 --> 00:23:56,809
So it's kind of
a strange reminiscent tribute
431
00:23:56,893 --> 00:23:59,145
to Billy Wilder, Shirley MacLaine--
432
00:23:59,896 --> 00:24:03,816
Medley of a coat, and it’s perfect.
433
00:24:04,943 --> 00:24:05,944
It's all happening!
434
00:24:06,027 --> 00:24:09,238
"It's all happening."
Okay, now that was the phrase--
435
00:24:09,322 --> 00:24:10,365
Am I going on too much?
436
00:24:11,282 --> 00:24:14,410
Well, I guess this is
what the purpose of it is, right? Okay.
437
00:24:14,494 --> 00:24:15,954
So, "It's all happening,"
438
00:24:16,037 --> 00:24:19,707
was a phrase that came from a woman
named Michelle Meyer,
439
00:24:19,791 --> 00:24:25,338
and Michelle was a real kind of
behind-the-scenes queen
440
00:24:25,421 --> 00:24:27,048
of Hollywood and the rock scene.
441
00:24:27,924 --> 00:24:29,550
And she used to say, "it's all happening."
442
00:24:29,634 --> 00:24:35,974
And so did Rodney Bingenheimer,
who's still the king of LA rock pop radio.
443
00:24:36,057 --> 00:24:38,226
They would say "It's all happening,"
and that spread,
444
00:24:38,309 --> 00:24:41,688
and everybody was saying,
"It's all happening."
445
00:24:41,771 --> 00:24:43,982
-So that's the reason.
-I love this scene.
446
00:24:44,065 --> 00:24:46,776
"Does anybody remember laughter?"
447
00:24:47,735 --> 00:24:50,655
"Does anyone remember--"
I told Fairuza how much I love this scene.
448
00:24:50,738 --> 00:24:53,574
If I had to save one scene
in the entire film, it would be that one.
449
00:24:53,658 --> 00:24:55,618
"Does anybody remember laughter?"
450
00:24:55,702 --> 00:24:58,955
Which really expresses
the whole mood of the film.
451
00:24:59,038 --> 00:25:03,418
Yeah, and it came from Robert Plant,
the live version of "Stairway to Heaven."
452
00:25:03,501 --> 00:25:04,961
-Really?
-Yeah.
453
00:25:05,044 --> 00:25:06,671
When we showed the movie to Led Zeppelin,
454
00:25:06,754 --> 00:25:09,257
you can bet I was a little nervous
when we showed 'em that
455
00:25:09,340 --> 00:25:10,758
and a couple other scenes.
456
00:25:10,842 --> 00:25:12,927
You remember Fairuza sent you that tape
457
00:25:13,011 --> 00:25:16,014
of her saying that line about 300 times?
458
00:25:16,097 --> 00:25:18,266
That's right. Fairuza, for her audition,
459
00:25:18,349 --> 00:25:20,059
had to say,
"Does anybody remember laughter?"
460
00:25:20,143 --> 00:25:21,436
And she sent a tape from New York
461
00:25:21,519 --> 00:25:25,273
where she went to all kinds of clubs
and went everywhere.
462
00:25:25,356 --> 00:25:27,400
-We should have that on the DVD.
-Yeah.
463
00:25:27,483 --> 00:25:30,695
She's just saying "Does anybody
remember laughter?" all over town.
464
00:25:30,778 --> 00:25:33,156
-Oh, she was wonderful.
-She got the job, baby.
465
00:25:33,239 --> 00:25:35,116
-Yes.
-She's amazing.
466
00:25:35,199 --> 00:25:38,119
I love the way the camera
showed the platforms first.
467
00:25:38,202 --> 00:25:42,957
Yeah. Well , John Toll and I
had a conversation very early on,
468
00:25:43,041 --> 00:25:48,046
and the idea was, the camera should be
a little bit like a Truffaut camera,
469
00:25:48,129 --> 00:25:49,839
the camera in Day for Night,
470
00:25:49,922 --> 00:25:54,010
where the camera just kind of
gently crooks a finger your way
471
00:25:54,093 --> 00:25:55,762
and says, "Come and take a look at this."
472
00:25:55,845 --> 00:25:58,681
The camera is your friend
in Almost Famous.
473
00:25:59,932 --> 00:26:02,727
It's also a little bit of a tribute
to Mad Dogs and Englishmen
474
00:26:02,810 --> 00:26:05,855
and 400 Blows and stuff,
but we'll talk more about that later.
475
00:26:05,938 --> 00:26:07,190
Here's Stillwater.
476
00:26:08,107 --> 00:26:11,694
And I stood in that spot
many a time with many bands,
477
00:26:11,778 --> 00:26:14,655
trying to set up an interview,
and I was usually--
478
00:26:14,739 --> 00:26:16,616
I remember, Cameron,
I was waiting out in the lot.
479
00:26:16,699 --> 00:26:18,409
-You were?
-In the car.
480
00:26:18,493 --> 00:26:20,161
And it pretty much went like this.
481
00:26:20,912 --> 00:26:22,163
Pretty much early on,
482
00:26:22,246 --> 00:26:25,583
you could see the dynamic
between the lead singer and the guitarist.
483
00:26:25,666 --> 00:26:29,504
Neither of them wanted to see the other
get asked for the interview first.
484
00:26:30,171 --> 00:26:33,091
So you had to kind of do it as a group.
485
00:26:36,844 --> 00:26:38,221
Way to go.
486
00:26:39,305 --> 00:26:42,308
Guys, should we just hail
Billy Crudup and Jason Lee
487
00:26:42,391 --> 00:26:45,103
and John Fedevich and Mark Kozelek
for a moment?
488
00:26:46,270 --> 00:26:49,774
-They became a band. It's amazing.
-I know.
489
00:26:49,857 --> 00:26:51,984
I said to Nancy, my wife,
490
00:26:52,068 --> 00:26:55,696
who's the great collaborator,
the kitchen collaborator on all our stuff,
491
00:26:56,989 --> 00:26:58,783
I said, you know, once we make--
492
00:26:58,866 --> 00:26:59,909
The band was originally English
in an early draft.
493
00:26:59,909 --> 00:27:01,786
The band was originally English
in an early draft.
494
00:27:01,869 --> 00:27:03,454
I said once we make this band American,
495
00:27:03,538 --> 00:27:06,541
we are either doomed or we'll slip by
496
00:27:06,624 --> 00:27:10,461
because there's no stereotypes
or funny accents to lie back on.
497
00:27:10,545 --> 00:27:14,590
You just have to be as real as you can.
498
00:27:15,258 --> 00:27:18,052
Thanks to them,
I think we got pretty close.
499
00:27:18,136 --> 00:27:21,639
This is a-- This--
Who's the name of this actor?
500
00:27:21,722 --> 00:27:23,975
-Zack Ward.
-Zack Ward.
501
00:27:24,058 --> 00:27:27,353
Fantastic. He inhabited Red Dog,
502
00:27:27,436 --> 00:27:31,983
who was the great.. .
the most legendary roadie anywhere.
503
00:27:32,066 --> 00:27:33,401
Of all time, really.
504
00:27:33,484 --> 00:27:36,821
He is The Allman Brothers Band's roadie.
He's written a book now called ...
505
00:27:37,363 --> 00:27:39,407
-What is it?
-Something Tails.
506
00:27:41,617 --> 00:27:45,371
Tails... Anyway, you can get it
on his website, thelegendaryreddog.com.
507
00:27:45,454 --> 00:27:48,666
It's a great, great book.
And he is the king roadie.
508
00:27:48,749 --> 00:27:51,502
I think he's going to end up
in the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame.
509
00:27:52,420 --> 00:27:54,839
Took care of me on an early story
with the Allman Brothers
510
00:27:54,922 --> 00:27:58,050
that much of this movie is based on,
my first road trip.
511
00:27:58,134 --> 00:28:00,678
So thank you, Red Dog, and--
A Book of Tails.
512
00:28:00,761 --> 00:28:04,307
-That's the name of it.
-T-A-I-L-S.
513
00:28:04,390 --> 00:28:06,934
Yeah. Anyway...
514
00:28:07,018 --> 00:28:10,271
A little-- Jason Lee just on fire here.
515
00:28:12,064 --> 00:28:17,361
Jason Lee is a guy who is ready anytime,
anyplace, with the longest spee--
516
00:28:17,445 --> 00:28:19,739
You can't write a speech too long for him.
517
00:28:19,822 --> 00:28:21,741
He'll be ready to do it
at the drop of a hat,
518
00:28:21,824 --> 00:28:24,076
and he just rips it.
519
00:28:25,870 --> 00:28:27,496
-He's amazing.
-He is amazing.
520
00:28:27,580 --> 00:28:28,789
And the chicks are great.
521
00:28:28,873 --> 00:28:31,000
-When I visited on the set--
-"And the chicks are great."
522
00:28:31,083 --> 00:28:34,337
When I visited on the set,
I noticed the Stillwater actors
523
00:28:34,420 --> 00:28:37,632
all ate together, talked together,
stayed together,
524
00:28:37,715 --> 00:28:42,011
walked that sloping band walk together.
525
00:28:42,094 --> 00:28:43,804
I couldn't believe they were actors.
526
00:28:43,888 --> 00:28:45,890
And some of them
were not professional musicians.
527
00:28:45,973 --> 00:28:49,477
By the way, that's early mousse.
That's '70s mousse-- shaving cream.
528
00:28:51,145 --> 00:28:53,564
That, actually-- I used to see that a lot.
529
00:28:54,774 --> 00:28:58,069
And that was my tape recorder, too,
in the orange bag.
530
00:28:58,152 --> 00:29:00,696
I don't know, I just figure, you know,
531
00:29:00,780 --> 00:29:03,366
might as well go with what you had
and what you kept.
532
00:29:03,449 --> 00:29:05,618
-So--
-Which is everything.
533
00:29:05,701 --> 00:29:06,744
Yeah. That's...
534
00:29:08,120 --> 00:29:11,499
And that's the actual pass
from the first show I got backstage at.
535
00:29:11,582 --> 00:29:13,209
So, in some way--
536
00:29:13,292 --> 00:29:17,964
Didn't we have to make this movie
to clear out the bookshelves, Mom?
537
00:29:18,547 --> 00:29:22,093
Well, I'm afraid we didn't
clear them out, dear. They're still there.
538
00:29:24,011 --> 00:29:27,473
My condo is still San Diego Pic 'N' Save.
539
00:29:30,851 --> 00:29:32,770
Kate.
540
00:29:32,853 --> 00:29:34,605
Waiting for the sequel.
541
00:29:35,606 --> 00:29:37,900
How you're mysterious.
542
00:29:42,154 --> 00:29:44,824
-How old are you?
-Eighteen.
543
00:29:45,533 --> 00:29:48,202
Patrick Fugit... we should talk about.
544
00:29:48,286 --> 00:29:51,539
Patrick, you know, is...
545
00:29:51,622 --> 00:29:53,082
Me too.
546
00:29:53,165 --> 00:29:59,922
...the embodiment of innocent fandom
on the verge of adulthood, all that stuff.
547
00:30:00,006 --> 00:30:02,341
-I mean, I didn't--
-That was you, Cameron.
548
00:30:02,425 --> 00:30:05,344
He's pretty much better-looking
than I was, but he...
549
00:30:06,679 --> 00:30:09,181
He captures how it felt.
550
00:30:09,265 --> 00:30:12,226
When I look at him,
I remember how it actually felt.
551
00:30:12,310 --> 00:30:17,398
And he came from. .. Salt Lake City
and hadn't done too much.
552
00:30:17,481 --> 00:30:20,192
I think one episode
of Touched by an Angel.
553
00:30:21,110 --> 00:30:24,947
And was in, like, a B-movie horror movie.
554
00:30:25,031 --> 00:30:26,407
Something about the ants.
555
00:30:26,490 --> 00:30:28,826
-He was eaten by ants.
-He was eaten by ants.
556
00:30:29,493 --> 00:30:34,415
And we got his tape thanks to Gail Levin,
who we should also hail.
557
00:30:34,498 --> 00:30:36,751
-Gail is the.. .
-She's wonderful. Gail's wonderful.
558
00:30:36,834 --> 00:30:38,627
-...greatest casting director.. .
-She is.
559
00:30:38,711 --> 00:30:40,755
-...in the world.
-She works 24-hour days.
560
00:30:40,838 --> 00:30:42,757
Twenty... 30-hour days.
561
00:30:42,840 --> 00:30:45,634
And also brought in so many great actors.
562
00:30:45,718 --> 00:30:48,054
I wish they were all in the movie.
563
00:30:48,137 --> 00:30:50,765
Many of them actually are
in this long version.
564
00:30:50,848 --> 00:30:54,310
But Gail found Patrick Fugit,
and we hired him,
565
00:30:54,393 --> 00:30:56,354
and we almost didn't get the movie made.
566
00:30:56,437 --> 00:31:00,232
By the way, I'm playing this actual song
on the set when Kate's doing the scene,
567
00:31:00,316 --> 00:31:02,068
and it made her cry.
568
00:31:02,151 --> 00:31:03,819
-So.. .
-Made a lot of people cry.
569
00:31:03,903 --> 00:31:07,490
Made a lot of people cry.
And Joni gave us the song. It was great.
570
00:31:07,573 --> 00:31:11,118
Anyway, this is a scene that I was
always sorry wasn't in the movie.
571
00:31:12,161 --> 00:31:16,040
This is where Billy talks
about Marvin Gaye.
572
00:31:16,749 --> 00:31:20,920
There's a single "woo" at the end
of the second verse.
573
00:31:21,003 --> 00:31:24,632
- You know that single woo?
-I know that woo! Yeah.
574
00:31:25,800 --> 00:31:27,635
Yeah! That's what you remember.
575
00:31:27,718 --> 00:31:28,719
Yeah.
576
00:31:28,803 --> 00:31:30,096
It's the silly things.
577
00:31:30,179 --> 00:31:32,807
I love Marvin Gaye,
and I also love the idea
578
00:31:32,890 --> 00:31:35,184
that for all the people that say,
579
00:31:35,267 --> 00:31:38,187
"Rock, it's sex and drugs.
It's sex and drugs."
580
00:31:38,270 --> 00:31:41,565
And every movie and every TV show,
it's always about sex and drugs.
581
00:31:41,649 --> 00:31:47,029
What always pissed me off
about movies that accented that too much
582
00:31:47,363 --> 00:31:51,867
is that they never captured how much
the bands, the musicians, love music.
583
00:31:51,951 --> 00:31:55,079
By the way, this is a tribute to
Joel Bernstein's Time Fades A way cover
584
00:31:55,162 --> 00:31:56,455
from the Neil Young album.
585
00:31:56,539 --> 00:31:59,542
And much of this movie is based
on Joel's photos
586
00:31:59,625 --> 00:32:01,502
and Neal Preston's photos.
587
00:32:03,045 --> 00:32:07,174
But so many people want to lean too hard
on sex and drugs.
588
00:32:07,258 --> 00:32:10,052
And it’s fun and it's entertaining
and it's cool and I love those movies,
589
00:32:10,136 --> 00:32:15,516
but I just wanted to get in
how much these bands love music.
590
00:32:17,518 --> 00:32:19,770
I was listening
to "What's Happening Brother" last night
591
00:32:19,854 --> 00:32:23,566
and realized of course that the single
"woo" actually happens three times
592
00:32:23,649 --> 00:32:24,859
in "What's Happening Brother."
593
00:32:24,942 --> 00:32:29,405
I think I was thinking of "Distant Lover"
where the "ow" happens once.
594
00:32:29,488 --> 00:32:30,823
But you get the idea.
595
00:32:30,906 --> 00:32:34,326
It's not like the "Kashmir" thing
in East Times at Ridgemont High.
596
00:32:34,410 --> 00:32:36,287
But, Cameron,
that’s why you were so amazing at 16.
597
00:32:36,370 --> 00:32:39,623
Because what other journalist
would remember all the "woos"?
598
00:32:39,707 --> 00:32:41,667
Well, close to the amount of "woos."
599
00:32:44,295 --> 00:32:45,671
Here's "Fever Dog."
600
00:32:48,007 --> 00:32:50,801
We did this at the San Diego Sports Arena.
601
00:32:50,885 --> 00:32:53,762
I remember standing on the stage
with the guys going, "You guys,
602
00:32:54,388 --> 00:32:57,349
Elvis, Zeppelin, the Stones...
603
00:32:58,017 --> 00:33:00,019
they've all stood here,
and they’ve all played,
604
00:33:00,102 --> 00:33:02,271
and now it's your stage."
605
00:33:02,354 --> 00:33:05,316
And Jason Lee would be like,
"Hell yeah, it’s our stage!"
606
00:33:05,399 --> 00:33:09,653
And I'd be saying, "I'm a lucky guy.
This might just work."
607
00:33:10,321 --> 00:33:12,198
Noah Taylor...
608
00:33:13,199 --> 00:33:14,533
is a...
609
00:33:15,493 --> 00:33:18,787
I just gotta say, he is one of
the greatest secret weapons.
610
00:33:18,871 --> 00:33:19,872
Yes, he is.
611
00:33:19,955 --> 00:33:23,375
-He is one of the most talented actors.
-I'm in love with Noah Taylor.
612
00:33:23,459 --> 00:33:25,920
-Noah, I'm in love with you.
-We're all in love with Noah.
613
00:33:26,003 --> 00:33:28,672
-He's so sweet and so brilliant.
-Noah's in Vanilla Sky
614
00:33:28,756 --> 00:33:30,799
He is just...
615
00:33:31,884 --> 00:33:34,303
-He's everything you want as a director.
-Yes, yes.
616
00:33:34,386 --> 00:33:36,514
And such a kind man.
617
00:33:36,597 --> 00:33:40,726
He brings his own soul to the movie
and acts from his soul,
618
00:33:40,809 --> 00:33:42,603
and very selflessly...
619
00:33:44,271 --> 00:33:47,608
assumed the role of that road manager,
and he managed Stillwater.
620
00:33:47,691 --> 00:33:49,276
And he stayed in character.
621
00:33:49,360 --> 00:33:53,322
During lunch, everybody else didn't stay
in character 'cause it was lunchtime.
622
00:33:53,405 --> 00:33:55,449
-But Noah stayed in character.
-That's right.
623
00:33:55,533 --> 00:33:59,411
And he loved the guys,
and they’re all still friends.
624
00:34:00,246 --> 00:34:03,165
But Noah--
It's the little things, you know.
625
00:34:03,249 --> 00:34:08,087
Without Noah.. .
I don't know if the movie is the same.
626
00:34:08,170 --> 00:34:09,380
I just don't know.
627
00:34:09,463 --> 00:34:14,510
And to get the music and the band right
was everything in Almost Famous.
628
00:34:14,593 --> 00:34:16,303
And, so, we love you, Noah.
629
00:34:16,387 --> 00:34:19,390
-Noah's in your new film Vanilla Sky
-Yeah.
630
00:34:19,473 --> 00:34:21,433
-Important role.
-Yep.
631
00:34:21,517 --> 00:34:23,143
Completely different character.
632
00:34:23,477 --> 00:34:25,104
Yes. I hardly recognized him.
633
00:34:25,187 --> 00:34:27,273
Yep. He's great. There he is.
634
00:34:28,190 --> 00:34:30,317
So, many a time, many a time
635
00:34:30,401 --> 00:34:33,988
was spent at this exact spot
at the San Diego Sports Arena.
636
00:34:35,239 --> 00:34:37,700
And. .. Neal Preston and I--
637
00:34:37,783 --> 00:34:40,786
Neal was the photographer and
the still photographer on Almost Famous,
638
00:34:40,869 --> 00:34:42,913
and we used to do
all our stories together.
639
00:34:44,081 --> 00:34:47,001
And we spent a lot of time right here...
640
00:34:48,294 --> 00:34:51,505
making plans for the future...
641
00:34:53,048 --> 00:34:58,053
exchanging phone numbers,
meeting people, saying goodbye.
642
00:34:58,137 --> 00:34:59,597
All happened right there.
643
00:34:59,680 --> 00:35:02,391
My dream was that other bands
would come to the Sports Arena after this
644
00:35:02,474 --> 00:35:04,810
and go, "Hey,
this is where they filmed that movie."
645
00:35:05,769 --> 00:35:07,855
Come on, let's blow this spot!
646
00:35:07,938 --> 00:35:10,357
There's Mark Kozelek
of the Red House Painters.
647
00:35:12,860 --> 00:35:16,614
And Patrick,
who we can talk a little bit more about.
648
00:35:16,697 --> 00:35:22,453
Patrick just had
a strange adrenaline surge this night.
649
00:35:22,536 --> 00:35:24,288
He was ...
650
00:35:25,539 --> 00:35:28,500
I think he sort of became Jim Carrey
for this scene.
651
00:35:28,584 --> 00:35:31,879
-He is animated.
-He is animated. He is out of his mind.
652
00:35:31,962 --> 00:35:33,881
How many times
did you shoot this, Cameron?
653
00:35:33,964 --> 00:35:35,924
This scene? Like, twice.
654
00:35:36,759 --> 00:35:39,261
Because Patrick is just--
Look at him. He's like...
655
00:35:40,471 --> 00:35:43,724
And it’s great because his natural way
is to be kind of inward.
656
00:35:43,807 --> 00:35:47,186
-He just matured five years in that scene.
-That's right.
657
00:35:47,269 --> 00:35:53,692
Now, this is one of my very favorite
sequences that I’ve ever directed.
658
00:35:56,028 --> 00:36:00,491
Not that I've had a vast amount of movies
as a director,
659
00:36:00,574 --> 00:36:02,076
but this was number four,
660
00:36:02,159 --> 00:36:07,289
and this is one of those times
where you just are thrilled to be there.
661
00:36:07,373 --> 00:36:11,126
Everything disappears,
and you just go, "Yeah!"
662
00:36:11,210 --> 00:36:15,089
And watching Patrick and Kate here...
663
00:36:16,298 --> 00:36:19,718
I think I was just jumping up and down
like crazy 'cause I loved it so much.
664
00:36:19,802 --> 00:36:23,931
Then we went outside
on a very cold night and we filmed this.
665
00:36:24,598 --> 00:36:25,891
And in the editing room,
666
00:36:25,974 --> 00:36:29,186
I just have to say Joe Hutshing and I
were looking at footage,
667
00:36:29,269 --> 00:36:32,731
and Nancy had just written
this theme that you hear.
668
00:36:32,815 --> 00:36:35,901
And we put this theme on the scene
and looked at each other
669
00:36:35,984 --> 00:36:39,238
and said, "This is the movie.
This is the feeling of the movie."
670
00:36:43,992 --> 00:36:47,121
Patrick is, I think, a little bit in love
with Kate at this time.
671
00:36:47,204 --> 00:36:49,081
In real life.
672
00:36:49,164 --> 00:36:53,001
And I put a moment in
that’s actually Patrick talking to Kate.
673
00:36:53,085 --> 00:36:54,837
It's one of my favorite things
in the movie.
674
00:36:54,920 --> 00:36:57,381
And it’s right here
when he says "Ask me again."
675
00:36:58,048 --> 00:37:00,718
- You sure?
-Ask me again.
676
00:37:00,801 --> 00:37:01,802
Yes.
677
00:37:01,885 --> 00:37:03,178
Do you want to come?
678
00:37:03,721 --> 00:37:04,805
Yes, yes.
679
00:37:04,888 --> 00:37:07,099
Yeah. That "ask me again" is the real guy,
680
00:37:07,182 --> 00:37:09,977
and you know,
you just die for those real moments.
681
00:37:10,060 --> 00:37:12,312
-Yes.
-Look at him. Yeah, I think he...
682
00:37:12,396 --> 00:37:15,274
-Look at his eyes.
-... passed through puberty in that one shot.
683
00:37:16,567 --> 00:37:20,571
His eyes say, "You're so gorgeous, Kate.
You're gorgeous. I want you."
684
00:37:20,654 --> 00:37:21,655
Yeah.
685
00:37:21,739 --> 00:37:24,992
I don't think you should suggest to him
to watch this director's commentary.
686
00:37:25,075 --> 00:37:26,994
I don't think he’d appreciate it.
687
00:37:29,455 --> 00:37:31,874
Very sexy, sexy man, Patrick Fugit.
688
00:37:33,834 --> 00:37:34,835
And then ...
689
00:37:36,003 --> 00:37:38,005
We have a White Front sign
in the background,
690
00:37:38,088 --> 00:37:40,215
which Joe Hutshing--
who also grew up in San Diego--
691
00:37:40,299 --> 00:37:42,009
And I decided had to be there.
692
00:37:42,885 --> 00:37:44,219
-A what?
-A White Front.
693
00:37:44,303 --> 00:37:47,431
White Front was a department store.
So we put it there.
694
00:37:50,100 --> 00:37:52,936
So, Mom, you're about to see
the full-length Darryl scene.
695
00:37:53,020 --> 00:37:54,354
All right.
696
00:37:55,105 --> 00:37:56,940
AKA John Seipel.
697
00:37:58,025 --> 00:38:01,737
This was the first thing we shot
in the movie, the first day, first shot.
698
00:38:01,820 --> 00:38:04,448
-Hey, Darryl.
-Hey.
699
00:38:04,531 --> 00:38:05,824
And this happened.
700
00:38:08,035 --> 00:38:10,287
Love this guy, Jesse Caron.
701
00:38:10,370 --> 00:38:12,039
You gotta love that shirt.
702
00:38:12,790 --> 00:38:16,043
-So, your sister's a stewardess now.
- Yeah.
703
00:38:16,126 --> 00:38:17,544
She and Mom are still...
704
00:38:18,587 --> 00:38:21,715
I'd say not speaking,
but I don't know that they ever did.
705
00:38:21,799 --> 00:38:22,966
One of the reasons that...
706
00:38:23,050 --> 00:38:25,052
The things your sister and I
used to do inside these four walls.
707
00:38:25,135 --> 00:38:27,012
That's okay. I don't wanna know.
708
00:38:27,095 --> 00:38:30,891
One of the reasons that we cut
the movie down for theatrical release
709
00:38:30,974 --> 00:38:34,019
is that you just wanted the kid
to get out on the road.
710
00:38:34,102 --> 00:38:37,022
I think there was a feeling
in the theaters of, like,
711
00:38:37,105 --> 00:38:39,733
"Come on, let's get him on the road."
712
00:38:39,817 --> 00:38:42,361
So, stuff like this we trimmed back.
713
00:38:42,444 --> 00:38:43,570
But it's back.
714
00:38:44,404 --> 00:38:47,324
And when Jesse Caron as Darryl
sits on the bed
715
00:38:47,407 --> 00:38:51,411
and reminisces about his time
with William Miller's sister...
716
00:38:52,704 --> 00:38:56,291
I just, you know, I could walk away
at that point and figure...
717
00:38:57,459 --> 00:38:58,877
I'm a happy guy.
718
00:39:06,009 --> 00:39:08,720
It's like church.
The church of the girl that dumped him.
719
00:39:10,347 --> 00:39:15,269
-And where was I when this was going on?
-In the other room, completely unaware.
720
00:39:15,352 --> 00:39:18,605
I love how he just kind of makes that fist
and pounds the bed.
721
00:39:18,939 --> 00:39:21,483
-Yeah.
-God knows what that represents.
722
00:39:21,567 --> 00:39:24,778
-So, here's the money, Mom.
-Yeah. There it is.
723
00:39:24,862 --> 00:39:26,405
-We still do that.
-Yeah.
724
00:39:27,447 --> 00:39:30,450
And here's that money I owe you.
725
00:39:30,534 --> 00:39:31,785
That's what we used to say,
726
00:39:31,869 --> 00:39:34,830
but it was $20 for gas money
in case you ran out of gas.
727
00:39:34,913 --> 00:39:35,914
Yeah.
728
00:39:37,416 --> 00:39:39,376
I've raised it to 50 now, son.
729
00:39:40,878 --> 00:39:43,547
I don't go barefoot. Frances, please.
730
00:39:43,630 --> 00:39:47,009
This was my Mom's one comment
about the movie
731
00:39:47,092 --> 00:39:49,136
is that she never went barefoot
in the house.
732
00:39:50,095 --> 00:39:54,099
I think we gotta give that one
to the amazing Frances McDormand.
733
00:39:54,683 --> 00:39:55,976
What do you say, Mom?
734
00:39:57,519 --> 00:39:58,520
No comment.
735
00:39:59,897 --> 00:40:04,401
I love the performance that she did,
as she portrayed me, except for that.
736
00:40:04,484 --> 00:40:07,863
Well, I just want to say,
can you imagine what it was like
737
00:40:07,946 --> 00:40:09,823
for Frances McDormand to sign on
738
00:40:09,907 --> 00:40:12,993
to play a very close facsimile
of the director's mother
739
00:40:13,076 --> 00:40:15,370
with the mother on the set?
740
00:40:15,454 --> 00:40:17,664
Filming in San Diego.
Can we just add that?
741
00:40:17,748 --> 00:40:20,584
We bonded at the Academy Awards,
and I thanked her.
742
00:40:20,667 --> 00:40:23,962
She can go barefoot all day long.
743
00:40:24,963 --> 00:40:26,924
We laughed about it at the Academy Awards.
744
00:40:27,007 --> 00:40:29,551
Frances is a genius.
745
00:40:29,635 --> 00:40:31,345
Yes, she is.
746
00:40:31,428 --> 00:40:32,763
Anyway, this is--
747
00:40:33,639 --> 00:40:37,559
This is my old girlfriend
Sue Sawyer's car.
748
00:40:38,852 --> 00:40:40,145
A reasonable facsimile.
749
00:40:43,815 --> 00:40:47,945
This was actually the final days
of the Continental Hyatt House...
750
00:40:49,071 --> 00:40:52,115
which has now been gutted and remodelled.
751
00:40:53,116 --> 00:40:54,493
This whole lobby is gone.
752
00:40:54,576 --> 00:40:57,788
It was torn down about 30 seconds
after we finished filming.
753
00:40:58,330 --> 00:41:01,750
And it was where everybody hung out.
It was like a club.
754
00:41:01,833 --> 00:41:03,752
There's Bodhi Elfman. Hello.
755
00:41:03,835 --> 00:41:08,173
This was like a combination of a hotel,
a club and ...
756
00:41:09,591 --> 00:41:13,095
a radio station and a bar and ...
757
00:41:14,137 --> 00:41:19,309
a meeting place
for everybody involved in rock in LA.
758
00:41:19,393 --> 00:41:21,895
If you wanted to inter--
There's Peter Frampton. Hello.
759
00:41:21,979 --> 00:41:24,314
If you wanted to interview somebody,
meet somebody,
760
00:41:24,398 --> 00:41:26,358
if you hung out
in the lobby of the Hyatt House,
761
00:41:26,441 --> 00:41:28,735
you would meet them or find them
before too long.
762
00:41:29,444 --> 00:41:30,988
Michelle Meyer, Rodney Bingenheimer,
763
00:41:31,071 --> 00:41:33,365
they would always be there
saying, "It's all happening."
764
00:41:35,534 --> 00:41:37,828
Remember Danny Sugerman
who wrote the book on the Doors,
765
00:41:37,911 --> 00:41:39,121
who was also a journalist?
766
00:41:39,204 --> 00:41:40,539
I remember Danny.
767
00:41:40,622 --> 00:41:42,624
Danny used to hang out
at the Hyatt House too.
768
00:41:43,375 --> 00:41:47,337
So we were very adamant
about wanting to film at the Hyatt House.
769
00:41:47,421 --> 00:41:50,424
It's where Led Zeppelin stayed.
It's where all the bands stayed.
770
00:41:50,507 --> 00:41:52,426
I lost my head!
771
00:41:52,509 --> 00:41:55,387
Martin Bell's a fucking asshole.
772
00:41:55,470 --> 00:41:58,223
With the exception--
Hey, there's Anna Paquin.
773
00:41:58,306 --> 00:42:02,602
She's gonna be talking about Sable Starr,
one of the great groupies of the era...
774
00:42:04,312 --> 00:42:06,189
in a second.
775
00:42:06,273 --> 00:42:08,942
Anyway, I'm very proud that we got to film
at the Hyatt House.
776
00:42:09,026 --> 00:42:14,740
Kate Hudson's character is a combination
of a few girls that I remember back then.
777
00:42:15,365 --> 00:42:17,117
The main one in spirit is...
778
00:42:18,869 --> 00:42:21,830
the real Penny Lane,
and her name is Pennie Trumbull
779
00:42:21,913 --> 00:42:28,795
and she is a very noble and true spirit.
780
00:42:28,879 --> 00:42:33,967
Never has exploited her relationships
or her experiences in any way.
781
00:42:34,051 --> 00:42:36,887
And still lives up in Oregon.
782
00:42:38,096 --> 00:42:40,182
And we tribute her in this movie.
783
00:42:40,265 --> 00:42:42,934
I don't understand that.
"Have you ever seen the bridge?"
784
00:42:43,018 --> 00:42:46,146
-That's a line from a Led Zeppelin song.
-Oh.
785
00:42:46,980 --> 00:42:48,774
"Have you seen the bridge?"
786
00:42:49,649 --> 00:42:55,113
So, Leonard Barr was a comedian
that used to look like a cadaver.
787
00:42:57,365 --> 00:43:00,077
By the way, this is a tribute
to Gram Parsons and Emmylou Harris...
788
00:43:00,160 --> 00:43:03,580
-This is such a sweet little scene.
-.. .who I met in 1973.
789
00:43:03,663 --> 00:43:06,249
And that's Pete Droge and Elaine Summers
singing this great song
790
00:43:06,333 --> 00:43:08,126
that you're gonna hear more of
on this DVD.
791
00:43:08,210 --> 00:43:10,337
But anyway, Leonard Barr-- Here he is.
792
00:43:10,420 --> 00:43:13,298
- You're that comedian. Leonard!
-Blow me!
793
00:43:14,341 --> 00:43:16,593
Okay. Very happy that’s back in.
794
00:43:17,469 --> 00:43:21,973
When I first came to the Hyatt House,
I saw this guy Leonard Barr
795
00:43:22,057 --> 00:43:25,685
who was about 50 years older than anyone
else hanging out in the Hyatt House.
796
00:43:25,769 --> 00:43:30,732
And he just sat around-- standing around,
whatever-- scowling at everybody.
797
00:43:30,816 --> 00:43:32,859
And I recognized him
from Johnny Carson's show.
798
00:43:32,943 --> 00:43:36,071
And this was, like,
one of the first celebrities.
799
00:43:36,738 --> 00:43:38,490
You know, I mean, he'd been in my home.
800
00:43:38,573 --> 00:43:41,368
I had an intense personal relationship
with Leonard Barr.
801
00:43:41,451 --> 00:43:46,456
And I went up to him, and I said,
"Hey, you're Leonard Barr, the comedian!"
802
00:43:46,540 --> 00:43:48,416
And he said to me, "Blow me."
803
00:43:51,962 --> 00:43:57,592
So, Leonard is no longer with us,
but hopefully he lives on
804
00:43:57,676 --> 00:43:59,094
in the extended version.
805
00:44:02,556 --> 00:44:04,975
The movie, I always thought,
should be a feeling.
806
00:44:05,058 --> 00:44:08,228
And as much as anything else,
it should give you a feeling.
807
00:44:08,812 --> 00:44:12,816
And scenes like this were very important
just to show the camaraderie of the bands
808
00:44:12,899 --> 00:44:14,526
and the way the people were together
809
00:44:14,609 --> 00:44:16,486
while all this other stuff
was swirling around,
810
00:44:16,570 --> 00:44:20,740
sexual liaisons were happening
and dope was being smoked.
811
00:44:20,824 --> 00:44:23,577
All this stuff is part of a big circus.
812
00:44:23,660 --> 00:44:27,205
But really it's about the club
of being together.
813
00:44:27,789 --> 00:44:31,585
And when you get invited into that club,
you never forget it.
814
00:44:31,668 --> 00:44:36,089
And I never forget that feeling
of belonging that happened
815
00:44:36,173 --> 00:44:40,510
when I did escape from San Diego
and come to LA and hang with the bands.
816
00:44:40,594 --> 00:44:43,889
And that was a big feeling
that I wanted to capture in the movie,
817
00:44:43,972 --> 00:44:46,349
and this scene, I think, does that.
818
00:44:53,648 --> 00:44:54,733
Hey, man.
819
00:44:54,816 --> 00:44:57,819
How worried for me
were you back then, Mom?
820
00:44:57,903 --> 00:44:59,738
I was worried, son, believe me.
821
00:45:00,739 --> 00:45:01,865
I was.
822
00:45:02,782 --> 00:45:05,035
I would arrange with your teachers
for makeup tests
823
00:45:05,118 --> 00:45:07,537
of the makeups of the makeups
of the makeups of the final.
824
00:45:07,621 --> 00:45:09,581
And then I'd get that call-- "Mom, sorry.
825
00:45:09,664 --> 00:45:13,168
I'm not gonna be back
next Wednesday for that test."
826
00:45:13,251 --> 00:45:15,754
So I had to make adjustments.
827
00:45:15,837 --> 00:45:20,217
You were so worried, though,
that I was gonna get on dope.
828
00:45:20,300 --> 00:45:24,387
Of course, because drugs were just very
common and they were accepted.
829
00:45:24,471 --> 00:45:29,851
Before people really realized some
of the long-term, subtle effects of them,
830
00:45:29,935 --> 00:45:31,436
it was just accepted,
831
00:45:31,519 --> 00:45:35,774
and I knew from all the literature
I had read about the long-term effects,
832
00:45:35,857 --> 00:45:37,192
so I was concerned.
833
00:45:37,275 --> 00:45:40,403
So that's why the family line was,
"Don't take drugs."
834
00:45:40,487 --> 00:45:42,197
Don't take drugs.
835
00:45:42,906 --> 00:45:44,741
But I didn't.
836
00:45:44,824 --> 00:45:49,663
You know, as a little guy hanging around
with bands, I would see drugs,
837
00:45:49,746 --> 00:45:51,748
and they would offer me drugs.
838
00:45:51,831 --> 00:45:56,419
I mean, the first time
I interviewed Humble Pie that first night...
839
00:45:57,504 --> 00:46:01,466
Steve Marriot offered me a big hash joint
and a Heineken,
840
00:46:01,549 --> 00:46:04,302
and I said no.
841
00:46:04,719 --> 00:46:09,349
And that was the first time I heard this,
which was echoed for years afterwards.
842
00:46:09,432 --> 00:46:14,479
He said,
"Do you want this joint, you know?"
843
00:46:14,562 --> 00:46:17,232
And I said no, and he goes,
"Good! More for me!"
844
00:46:17,941 --> 00:46:21,319
So, I used to hear that all the time.
They'd offer me coke and things like that.
845
00:46:21,403 --> 00:46:25,532
And I would say no, and they would say,
"Good. More for me."
846
00:46:25,615 --> 00:46:28,118
Like they were all thinking of it
for the first time.
847
00:46:29,452 --> 00:46:30,495
And ...
848
00:46:32,414 --> 00:46:36,668
I think now journalism is such that people
would write about things like that, but...
849
00:46:38,128 --> 00:46:43,049
I always thought my job
was to capture, again,
850
00:46:43,133 --> 00:46:46,803
what it was like to have a front-row seat,
to be on the road with the Allman Brothers
851
00:46:46,886 --> 00:46:48,763
or to be on the road with the Who.
852
00:46:49,556 --> 00:46:53,643
And. .. my duty was not to
853
00:46:54,394 --> 00:46:57,647
skewer and hang some of my favorite bands,
854
00:46:57,731 --> 00:47:02,485
but to capture what it was like to be
in that inner circle, making the music.
855
00:47:02,569 --> 00:47:05,113
And generally it wasn't about drugs.
856
00:47:05,196 --> 00:47:07,949
And, Cameron, you did,
because that was a critical year.
857
00:47:08,033 --> 00:47:10,994
Right after that, it changed.
Everything changed.
858
00:47:11,870 --> 00:47:14,247
The whole scene changed,
the music changed.
859
00:47:15,290 --> 00:47:19,044
The temper of the times changed,
and you've captured it in this film.
860
00:47:19,127 --> 00:47:22,547
The movie is set in '73 for a reason,
because '73--
861
00:47:22,630 --> 00:47:25,300
I remember somebody
said to me at the time,
862
00:47:25,383 --> 00:47:32,098
this is the last business in the world
where a hippie can become a millionaire.
863
00:47:32,182 --> 00:47:36,936
And before too long, those hippies...
864
00:47:38,396 --> 00:47:41,316
those hippie managers
that were there early
865
00:47:41,399 --> 00:47:45,820
got usurped before the band
even left their hometown.
866
00:47:45,904 --> 00:47:47,655
The conglomerates took over.
867
00:47:47,739 --> 00:47:50,450
And, you know,
great music has happened since.
868
00:47:50,533 --> 00:47:53,703
Great music happens
every minute of every day,
869
00:47:53,787 --> 00:47:56,039
and you can find it if you look for it.
870
00:47:56,122 --> 00:47:59,751
But there was a kind of glorious naivete.
871
00:48:00,960 --> 00:48:04,089
Yes, flecked with
all kinds of other stuff.
872
00:48:05,131 --> 00:48:09,052
And toughness in the relationships
between men and women certainly was there.
873
00:48:09,803 --> 00:48:15,683
But there was a glorious naivete
that I think the movie did justice to.
874
00:48:15,767 --> 00:48:18,978
-That's an amazing scene there, Cameron.
-I know. That was the ice room scene.
875
00:48:19,062 --> 00:48:21,564
-I'm glad we put that back in.
-Yes, I am too.
876
00:48:22,524 --> 00:48:24,526
Billy was great in there when he says...
877
00:48:24,859 --> 00:48:25,860
Oh, I love this.
878
00:48:26,611 --> 00:48:28,905
"You're retired
like Frank Sinatra is retired."
879
00:48:30,907 --> 00:48:32,700
I love this. The fact checker.
880
00:48:32,784 --> 00:48:35,328
You used to get so upset
881
00:48:35,412 --> 00:48:39,124
at the fact checker at Rolling Stone.
882
00:48:39,207 --> 00:48:42,669
I wonder if she saw the film
and recognized herself.
883
00:48:47,715 --> 00:48:49,050
There were a few of them.
884
00:48:51,052 --> 00:48:53,221
What can we say about Terry Chen
as Ben Fong-Torres?
885
00:48:53,304 --> 00:48:54,305
Wonderful.
886
00:48:54,389 --> 00:48:57,517
I don't know where one guy begins
and the other ends anymore.
887
00:48:57,600 --> 00:48:59,060
Really.
888
00:48:59,144 --> 00:49:01,438
Terry Chen spent a lot of time
with Ben Fong-Torres.
889
00:49:03,356 --> 00:49:07,068
You know, he's speaking exactly like Ben,
wearing shirts exactly like Ben.
890
00:49:07,152 --> 00:49:10,905
Ben came to the set one day and said,
"This all looks good to me, but...
891
00:49:11,990 --> 00:49:13,408
I never wore shirts like that."
892
00:49:13,491 --> 00:49:15,577
It's like, "What?"
893
00:49:15,660 --> 00:49:19,998
It was a real lesson in the rose-colored
glasses that we all put on.
894
00:49:20,081 --> 00:49:22,208
Because Ben only wore shirts like that.
895
00:49:24,210 --> 00:49:25,712
Jackson Browne in the background.
896
00:49:25,795 --> 00:49:30,049
And also, do you remember turning me on
to Mike Nichols and Elaine May, Mom?
897
00:49:30,133 --> 00:49:32,135
-That's why that record is there.
-I surely did.
898
00:49:32,218 --> 00:49:35,180
I still have the record. I still play it.
And it still works. It's wonderful.
899
00:49:35,263 --> 00:49:38,516
One of the great gifts
that the movie brought to us
900
00:49:38,600 --> 00:49:42,479
is Mike Nichols called
after he saw the movie and just loved it
901
00:49:42,562 --> 00:49:45,857
and said that his wife, Diane Sawyer,
turned to him and said,
902
00:49:45,940 --> 00:49:49,277
"Gee, you're a featured performer
in that one scene."
903
00:49:49,360 --> 00:49:52,739
And I was proud of that
because we put that record--
904
00:49:52,822 --> 00:49:53,823
We loved it.
905
00:49:53,907 --> 00:49:56,117
I tried to get that record in
almost every scene.
906
00:49:56,201 --> 00:49:57,785
Finally, we got it in that one.
907
00:49:59,454 --> 00:50:01,414
-That T-shirt's so great.
-I know.
908
00:50:01,498 --> 00:50:04,292
It's a facsimile of Lester's own shirt.
909
00:50:04,375 --> 00:50:08,546
Again, thanks to Jim DeRogatis for getting
us some of the research materials,
910
00:50:08,630 --> 00:50:13,092
and Jaan Uhelszki who lived with Lester
911
00:50:13,176 --> 00:50:16,179
at the Creem house
in Birmingham, Michigan.
912
00:50:17,180 --> 00:50:20,141
With Dave Marsh and all the others.
913
00:50:20,225 --> 00:50:23,061
This was a conversation I had with Lester.
914
00:50:24,270 --> 00:50:27,774
-It's too bad you never met Lester, Mom.
-I feel as though I did.
915
00:50:27,857 --> 00:50:28,858
Yeah.
916
00:50:29,651 --> 00:50:32,570
Jaan really helped us with the details
on this.
917
00:50:32,654 --> 00:50:35,615
That's the kind of chicken
that Lester used to get.
918
00:50:36,616 --> 00:50:38,451
And it’s there.
919
00:50:41,162 --> 00:50:43,665
-I think he called the house.
-He did.
920
00:50:43,748 --> 00:50:47,377
I think I took some phone calls from him.
I think I did.
921
00:50:48,628 --> 00:50:51,756
-So this is a scene--
-That's my dress!
922
00:50:51,839 --> 00:50:53,716
That is my dress.
923
00:50:54,676 --> 00:50:56,344
Yes, it's identical. All Betsy.
924
00:50:57,387 --> 00:50:58,638
Betsy's so great.
925
00:50:58,721 --> 00:51:02,684
You gave her pictures of me
during that year,
926
00:51:02,767 --> 00:51:05,728
and she had them handmade exactly.
927
00:51:05,812 --> 00:51:08,731
It's so strange to see my clothes.
928
00:51:08,815 --> 00:51:12,860
Let's talk about the "Stairway to Heaven"
scene that was cut out...
929
00:51:13,861 --> 00:51:15,738
where you are a featured performer, Mom.
930
00:51:16,614 --> 00:51:20,076
It will appear on this DVD elsewhere,
your entire scene.
931
00:51:20,159 --> 00:51:23,830
It's where William Miller plays
"Stairway to Heaven" for his mom
932
00:51:23,913 --> 00:51:27,208
to convince her that rock and roll
is intelligent and literate.
933
00:51:27,834 --> 00:51:31,754
-You remember those moments?
-Remember? You shot it all day.
934
00:51:34,007 --> 00:51:37,260
-Like six hours' worth.
-Okay, easy, easy.
935
00:51:37,343 --> 00:51:38,386
Sorry.
936
00:51:39,804 --> 00:51:41,973
I do a lot of takes sometimes.
937
00:51:43,891 --> 00:51:44,976
Sometimes.
938
00:51:45,602 --> 00:51:49,147
Anyway, Herb Ault,
who works with John Toll--
939
00:51:49,981 --> 00:51:52,525
And John Toll and Randy Woodside...
940
00:51:53,735 --> 00:51:56,529
these are a great bunch of guys
and a gift to any director
941
00:51:56,613 --> 00:51:59,115
because we wanted to get the bus scenes
feeling different.
942
00:51:59,198 --> 00:52:03,286
Most people sort of--
They have a jittery camera, and ...
943
00:52:04,287 --> 00:52:08,583
they kind of live with the fact
that a camera's gonna bump a lot on a bus.
944
00:52:08,666 --> 00:52:14,088
So, generally, you see bus scenes
and they’re all kind of tense and bouncy.
945
00:52:14,172 --> 00:52:16,466
And what we wanted to do
was give it a flow
946
00:52:16,549 --> 00:52:18,760
and make that bus the world of Stillwater
947
00:52:18,843 --> 00:52:23,014
where you could move in and out
of all the different things going on.
948
00:52:23,097 --> 00:52:27,518
And Herb, Herb built a dolly
949
00:52:28,144 --> 00:52:30,438
that’s on the top of that bus.
950
00:52:30,521 --> 00:52:33,066
So, the camera is moving on a dolly
951
00:52:33,650 --> 00:52:38,821
so it just kind of smoothly enters
all these lives.
952
00:52:38,905 --> 00:52:41,032
And it was really a brilliant thing.
So, we're--
953
00:52:41,908 --> 00:52:43,326
You can see the track up there.
954
00:52:44,702 --> 00:52:47,914
Designed to be part of the bus, of course.
955
00:52:47,997 --> 00:52:51,459
But anyway, we would drive around
these long stretches of road.
956
00:52:51,542 --> 00:52:54,379
In Sacramento, wasn't it?
Was it Sacramento?
957
00:52:54,462 --> 00:52:56,756
-Yeah, Sacramento.
-Sacramento and the Mojave Desert.
958
00:52:57,465 --> 00:53:00,802
So we would drive back and forth and
do these scenes, and it was sweltering.
959
00:53:01,678 --> 00:53:05,556
And one of the great shooting stretches
of the movie.
960
00:53:07,642 --> 00:53:10,186
-I dig Kate's top in this. Don't you, Mom?
-Yes, I do.
961
00:53:10,269 --> 00:53:12,480
That's a Betsy original, the Buckaroo.
962
00:53:13,189 --> 00:53:16,317
J.J. Cohen plays
one of the head roadies there.
963
00:53:16,401 --> 00:53:17,485
We love J.J.
964
00:53:18,903 --> 00:53:22,323
That was an image that I always had
in my mind-- the kid waving to you.
965
00:53:22,407 --> 00:53:25,410
Betsy deserved an Oscar for the costuming.
966
00:53:25,493 --> 00:53:29,205
It's absolutely brilliant
and so very, very accurate.
967
00:53:31,749 --> 00:53:33,334
But that was my shirt. Come on, Mom.
968
00:53:34,168 --> 00:53:37,338
I think that's the one you wore to school
and the nuns sent you home
969
00:53:37,422 --> 00:53:39,924
and said, "You sent your boy to school
wearing his underwear."
970
00:53:40,007 --> 00:53:41,801
-Now, I would like to--
-It's true.
971
00:53:41,884 --> 00:53:45,763
I would like for you to sit here
and watch this scene with me, Mom.
972
00:53:45,847 --> 00:53:48,057
I sent a note back and said,
"It's not his underwear."
973
00:53:48,641 --> 00:53:51,644
This guy kicked ass.
974
00:53:51,728 --> 00:53:53,604
Wasn’t he great? I love it.
975
00:53:54,188 --> 00:53:56,065
Tell her to stop.
976
00:53:57,900 --> 00:53:59,777
I know. She freaks me out.
977
00:54:07,285 --> 00:54:09,746
Billy Crudup actually playing--
This is his instrument.
978
00:54:09,829 --> 00:54:12,039
He learned to play guitar six weeks before
979
00:54:12,123 --> 00:54:15,209
with the help of Peter Frampton
before we started filming,
980
00:54:15,293 --> 00:54:17,628
but piano was his main instrument.
981
00:54:18,379 --> 00:54:20,798
Billy called our house recently and said,
982
00:54:21,632 --> 00:54:25,219
"I just want you to know, I still--
983
00:54:25,303 --> 00:54:27,930
I've stayed with the guitar.
I play it all the time.
984
00:54:28,014 --> 00:54:31,142
I'm getting really good,
and I want to play you this."
985
00:54:31,225 --> 00:54:34,395
And I heard this electric guitar
in the background going ...
986
00:54:43,404 --> 00:54:46,616
He's great. Simon Kirke from Bad Company
is by the pool.
987
00:54:47,575 --> 00:54:50,036
We filmed this in the Marilyn Monroe Room
988
00:54:50,119 --> 00:54:53,956
at the Roosevelt Hotel in Los Angeles.
989
00:54:54,040 --> 00:54:56,626
They say the room is haunted. I agree.
990
00:54:56,709 --> 00:54:59,337
It was nothing but chaos and mayhem.
991
00:54:59,420 --> 00:55:02,673
Bijou Phillips, you know, took her top off
992
00:55:02,757 --> 00:55:05,259
and freaked out Patrick Fugit, poor guy.
993
00:55:06,928 --> 00:55:08,888
It distracted him a bit.
994
00:55:08,971 --> 00:55:12,517
I'm sure it was very traumatizing.
I'm sure he couldn't get over it.
995
00:55:12,600 --> 00:55:15,770
It's probably one of his favorite moments
in the movie.
996
00:55:16,521 --> 00:55:19,774
But it was just--
I remember John Toll saying ...
997
00:55:22,318 --> 00:55:24,529
"It's like a Roman gladiator arena
in there.
998
00:55:24,612 --> 00:55:27,490
Just throw 'em all in
and see who's bloody and who survives."
999
00:55:27,573 --> 00:55:30,743
La Dolce Vita, '73-style.
1000
00:55:30,827 --> 00:55:34,831
You don't want to see the outtakes from
the stuff we did with girls in that room.
1001
00:55:34,914 --> 00:55:37,792
Fairuza, wasn't she really sick
with a terrible toothache?
1002
00:55:37,875 --> 00:55:39,418
Oh, my God.
1003
00:55:41,212 --> 00:55:44,715
Marilyn is still there, wreaking havoc.
1004
00:55:48,052 --> 00:55:49,720
That was Ana Maria Quintana...
1005
00:55:52,473 --> 00:55:55,101
mother of Pedro, playing the maid.
1006
00:55:55,184 --> 00:55:59,188
And then the great script supervisor.
1007
00:55:59,272 --> 00:56:01,148
And, oh, my goodness--
1008
00:56:01,899 --> 00:56:03,901
And Lisa also playing a maid there.
1009
00:56:03,985 --> 00:56:05,403
This is ...
1010
00:56:06,153 --> 00:56:08,739
This is the mack daddy
1011
00:56:09,323 --> 00:56:12,910
of scenes that didn't make it
into Almost Famous.
1012
00:56:14,036 --> 00:56:19,750
This is Kyle Gass of Tenacious D
playing the great Quince Allen,
1013
00:56:19,834 --> 00:56:25,464
who was a late-night mind-tripping deejay.
1014
00:56:26,424 --> 00:56:28,885
This was based on a real episode.
1015
00:56:29,719 --> 00:56:33,347
The guitar and songwriting
of Russell Hammond.
1016
00:56:33,431 --> 00:56:39,103
Vocal stylings of Jeff "Bebay. "
Jeff "Babey. " "Babay."
1017
00:56:40,104 --> 00:56:41,814
- "Bebe. "
-Bebe.
1018
00:56:41,898 --> 00:56:43,649
Jason capturing the pain ...
1019
00:56:45,735 --> 00:56:48,362
of the unappreciated singer.
1020
00:56:54,410 --> 00:56:57,288
I was running behind on the movie.
1021
00:56:58,205 --> 00:57:02,585
We had very complicated days,
and I was running behind,
1022
00:57:02,668 --> 00:57:06,172
and this is one of the days
where someone from the studio came
1023
00:57:06,255 --> 00:57:09,550
to kind of check in
and see how I was doing.
1024
00:57:09,634 --> 00:57:10,635
Oh, dear.
1025
00:57:10,718 --> 00:57:12,929
I remember being on the phone,
saying things like,
1026
00:57:13,012 --> 00:57:15,973
"This is an important document.
We gotta get it right.
1027
00:57:16,057 --> 00:57:18,976
We're doing this for posterity.
It captures the time."
1028
00:57:19,060 --> 00:57:21,520
They came to visit me during this scene--
1029
00:57:21,604 --> 00:57:23,230
And shut down the film.
1030
00:57:23,314 --> 00:57:27,818
Well, thank God, no,
but God knows what they thought--
1031
00:57:27,902 --> 00:57:32,239
We're smoking dope,
and the guy's falling asleep, and--
1032
00:57:32,323 --> 00:57:34,951
It's not real dope, of course,
1033
00:57:35,034 --> 00:57:37,328
but let's just say the scene didn't feel
1034
00:57:38,204 --> 00:57:40,831
like the next Best Picture nominee.
1035
00:57:45,503 --> 00:57:48,422
It's one of the scenes that we all loved,
the people that worked on the movie,
1036
00:57:48,506 --> 00:57:50,591
'cause it's the whole band of Stillwater,
1037
00:57:50,675 --> 00:57:54,971
and we all love Tenacious D,
and Kyle is just the funniest guy.
1038
00:57:59,517 --> 00:58:02,228
You might wanna hit
that delay button, Quincy.
1039
00:58:03,688 --> 00:58:05,731
And this happened with Neil Young.
1040
00:58:05,815 --> 00:58:07,817
The deejay fell asleep
1041
00:58:08,609 --> 00:58:13,447
and left Neil Young with an open mic
on Los Angeles radio.
1042
00:58:15,116 --> 00:58:18,536
And we shot a couple different versions
of this scene,
1043
00:58:18,619 --> 00:58:22,707
one where the band just talks and then
gets up and leaves after a while,
1044
00:58:22,790 --> 00:58:24,792
which is what Neil Young did.
1045
00:58:27,837 --> 00:58:30,548
But the one we used--
or almost used until now--
1046
00:58:31,924 --> 00:58:35,302
Is the one where the kid, William Miller,
1047
00:58:35,386 --> 00:58:38,139
gets to see what's truly brewing
beneath the surface
1048
00:58:38,222 --> 00:58:41,600
between Jason
and Billy Crudup's character.
1049
00:58:44,103 --> 00:58:46,772
I love John Fedevich as Silent Ed,
1050
00:58:46,856 --> 00:58:50,818
who's more eloquent with his silence
than most people with dialogue.
1051
00:58:52,194 --> 00:58:53,946
Noah. Great.
1052
00:58:54,030 --> 00:58:57,366
And here's Mark Kozelek
in his acting debut...
1053
00:58:58,868 --> 00:59:00,745
taking a break
from the Red House Painters.
1054
00:59:00,828 --> 00:59:04,040
-Just dealing genius there.
-"Feces."
1055
00:59:04,123 --> 00:59:05,624
The song is "Love Thing."
1056
00:59:05,708 --> 00:59:08,377
Your mind is starting to take effect.
1057
00:59:08,461 --> 00:59:11,088
They've all come
to watch you swallow fire.
1058
00:59:11,630 --> 00:59:12,840
You scream...
1059
00:59:12,923 --> 00:59:14,925
soundlessly...
1060
00:59:15,009 --> 00:59:16,427
on the Night Circus.
1061
00:59:17,928 --> 00:59:19,388
"I think that went quite well."
1062
00:59:21,724 --> 00:59:24,769
-I thought that went well.
- Yeah. Absolutely.
1063
00:59:25,853 --> 00:59:29,148
Life is good when Quince Allen
is back in the movie.
1064
00:59:29,815 --> 00:59:32,151
Guys, Kyle Gass as Quince Allen.
1065
00:59:34,320 --> 00:59:35,571
Hear, hear.
1066
00:59:35,654 --> 00:59:37,073
Is this Maryann with the pot?
1067
00:59:37,156 --> 00:59:39,325
This is such a fine scene. Oh, dear.
1068
00:59:40,284 --> 00:59:41,702
Memories.
1069
00:59:43,704 --> 00:59:45,039
Oh, man.
1070
00:59:45,122 --> 00:59:48,793
-Was this an actual event that took place?
-Yes, indeed.
1071
00:59:48,876 --> 00:59:51,837
That's the Soc 101 test
that he didn't show up for
1072
00:59:51,921 --> 00:59:53,631
for the umpteenth time.
1073
00:59:54,673 --> 00:59:57,468
I think you got a C in that class,
Cameron.
1074
00:59:58,385 --> 01:00:00,012
-Funny.
-C-minus.
1075
01:00:00,096 --> 01:00:04,225
Twenty-seven years can pass,
and yet no time can pass.
1076
01:00:05,893 --> 01:00:07,603
You should be really proud of him.
1077
01:00:07,686 --> 01:00:08,896
Fairuza.
1078
01:00:08,979 --> 01:00:11,107
I know men, and I'll bet you do too.
1079
01:00:11,190 --> 01:00:12,191
This was great.
1080
01:00:12,274 --> 01:00:14,193
He respects women, and he likes women.
1081
01:00:14,276 --> 01:00:15,945
Fairuza--
1082
01:00:16,028 --> 01:00:20,366
For reasons perhaps
we'll talk about some other time,
1083
01:00:20,449 --> 01:00:22,368
Fairuza ended up getting this scene.
1084
01:00:22,451 --> 01:00:25,496
Wasn’t originally scripted to do it.
1085
01:00:26,497 --> 01:00:28,582
Stepped in and did the scene.
1086
01:00:28,666 --> 01:00:31,127
-So well.
-Really wonderful.
1087
01:00:31,210 --> 01:00:33,796
That's more than I've ever said
to my own parents.
1088
01:00:33,879 --> 01:00:34,964
Love that line.
1089
01:00:37,091 --> 01:00:39,635
This is a maid speaking, by the way.
1090
01:00:39,718 --> 01:00:41,303
That was a tough one.
1091
01:00:41,387 --> 01:00:44,473
"This is the maid speaking, by the way"
was good on Frances and Fairuza,
1092
01:00:44,557 --> 01:00:48,435
so you had to choose, and we went
for the horror of Frances as the mother.
1093
01:00:48,519 --> 01:00:51,814
-But Fairuza really delivered it.
-I'm glad you did.
1094
01:00:51,897 --> 01:00:54,817
Yeah, I'm glad she ended up
doing that scene.
1095
01:00:56,026 --> 01:00:59,989
But that actually happened.
I did have to call your Soc 101 class.
1096
01:01:00,072 --> 01:01:04,451
But you were a teacher, so you were able
to speak teacher-ese with other teachers.
1097
01:01:04,535 --> 01:01:07,830
I know, but three delays, Cameron?
Three makeups?
1098
01:01:08,747 --> 01:01:12,334
-You'd still like me to go to law school.
-Of course. I'm waiting.
1099
01:01:14,295 --> 01:01:18,382
Your application is a little yellowed
and frayed, but it's there.
1100
01:01:18,465 --> 01:01:21,760
But you’re to blame for this
because you're the one that--
1101
01:01:21,844 --> 01:01:23,637
It was gonna be your hobby.
1102
01:01:23,721 --> 01:01:27,224
You're the one that turned me on
to Carnal Knowledge and Mike Nichols
1103
01:01:27,308 --> 01:01:31,020
and took me to see Medium Cool,
an X-rated movie, when I was 12
1104
01:01:31,103 --> 01:01:33,147
because you said it was a social document.
1105
01:01:33,230 --> 01:01:35,482
-I was out of my mind.
-It's your fault.
1106
01:01:36,859 --> 01:01:40,529
-You even got to meet Mick Jagger.
-I did, but...
1107
01:01:42,156 --> 01:01:43,949
I forgive you, Cameron.
1108
01:01:44,033 --> 01:01:46,619
I just wanted, for anybody listening,
1109
01:01:46,702 --> 01:01:51,207
because we are into the achingly personal
aspect of our audio tour--
1110
01:01:51,290 --> 01:01:54,752
We had a press party after the book
Conversations with Wilder came out,
1111
01:01:54,835 --> 01:01:57,546
and Mick Jagger was invited,
and he showed up.
1112
01:01:57,630 --> 01:02:02,551
And my mom spent more time talking
to Mick Jagger than me that night.
1113
01:02:02,635 --> 01:02:03,886
What was that like?
1114
01:02:03,969 --> 01:02:06,889
He's amazing,
because I've seen his photographs.
1115
01:02:06,972 --> 01:02:09,558
Then I saw him in person,
and he looked so young.
1116
01:02:09,642 --> 01:02:12,019
He's quite good looking in person.
1117
01:02:12,102 --> 01:02:13,729
-You see how it happens?
-Yeah.
1118
01:02:13,812 --> 01:02:16,732
Rock is evil until you meet Mick Jagger.
1119
01:02:18,067 --> 01:02:21,987
Suddenly, "He looks great! Mick and I.. ."
1120
01:02:22,071 --> 01:02:26,116
Well, I said,
"May I have my picture taken with you?"
1121
01:02:26,200 --> 01:02:28,077
"Why, of course, darling!"
1122
01:02:28,160 --> 01:02:30,246
-Thank you, Mick.
-He put his arm around me and said,
1123
01:02:30,329 --> 01:02:31,622
"Cameron, you too."
1124
01:02:31,705 --> 01:02:34,875
He came to me and said,
"Please get your mother away from me."
1125
01:02:34,959 --> 01:02:37,294
-No, he didn't.
-No, he didn't. He was great.
1126
01:02:37,378 --> 01:02:38,963
This is an important scene.
1127
01:02:39,046 --> 01:02:43,550
This is where Billy really got
the character, and he felt it.
1128
01:02:43,634 --> 01:02:47,304
Billy's got tough standards for himself,
1129
01:02:47,388 --> 01:02:50,891
and that's one of the reasons
he gets so deep,
1130
01:02:50,975 --> 01:02:53,519
works so hard, and makes it look easy.
1131
01:02:53,602 --> 01:02:55,938
-He's a superb actor.
-He's a superb actor.
1132
01:02:56,021 --> 01:03:01,235
But he doesn't cut himself a break easily,
which is part of his process.
1133
01:03:01,318 --> 01:03:03,487
And I think he finally felt like
1134
01:03:03,570 --> 01:03:06,240
he was getting to the core
of this character in this scene.
1135
01:03:07,032 --> 01:03:09,285
And it’s so great.
1136
01:03:09,368 --> 01:03:11,954
These are hard lines to do, I think...
1137
01:03:15,040 --> 01:03:17,626
because it's lofty and poetic,
what he's trying to say,
1138
01:03:17,710 --> 01:03:21,422
and it's a musician opening up,
but he's also manipulating that kid.
1139
01:03:22,298 --> 01:03:24,591
So he's honest and dishonest
at the same time,
1140
01:03:24,675 --> 01:03:27,553
while being honest
to his own love of music.
1141
01:03:27,636 --> 01:03:31,223
And it is the beginning
of the kid truly selling out,
1142
01:03:31,307 --> 01:03:36,979
because the kid chooses belonging
and friendship over journalism ...
1143
01:03:37,062 --> 01:03:38,063
That's right.
1144
01:03:38,147 --> 01:03:41,275
...hoping, of course,
to solve all of the problems--
1145
01:03:41,358 --> 01:03:43,861
Belonging and being a good journalist.
1146
01:03:44,486 --> 01:03:47,406
But this is where the dilemma
of the movie hits home.
1147
01:03:48,532 --> 01:03:51,076
People spend a lot of time
in audio commentaries going,
1148
01:03:51,160 --> 01:03:54,663
"Oh, this was fabulous"
and "Oh, didn't we nail this?"
1149
01:03:55,622 --> 01:03:59,001
But he was effing fabulous in that scene.
1150
01:03:59,084 --> 01:04:01,211
Here's one of the rare...
1151
01:04:01,295 --> 01:04:03,339
What is the chemical
you add to the chemistry?
1152
01:04:03,422 --> 01:04:05,049
...interview sequences.
1153
01:04:08,177 --> 01:04:10,137
I'm the bass player.
1154
01:04:11,430 --> 01:04:12,598
Right.
1155
01:04:12,681 --> 01:04:16,518
Notice the rain, which will set up
the electrocution scene later.
1156
01:04:16,602 --> 01:04:19,897
...what would be missing, stylistically?
1157
01:04:19,980 --> 01:04:21,565
What chemical?
1158
01:04:25,402 --> 01:04:26,403
A bass?
1159
01:04:26,487 --> 01:04:28,197
"The bass?"
1160
01:04:28,280 --> 01:04:30,240
To talk about that previous scene--
I love that.
1161
01:04:30,574 --> 01:04:32,201
The previous scene with Billy
1162
01:04:33,077 --> 01:04:38,957
was a combination of a conversation I had
with Ronnie Van Zant of Lynyrd Skynyrd
1163
01:04:39,041 --> 01:04:40,793
and Glenn Frey.
1164
01:04:40,876 --> 01:04:44,046
Glenn Frey from the Eagles told me,
"Just make us look cool."
1165
01:04:44,922 --> 01:04:49,551
And I just-- I didn't realize
how subtle the manipulation was.
1166
01:04:49,635 --> 01:04:51,637
And I don't even know if he did.
1167
01:04:51,720 --> 01:04:54,640
But he was one of the coolest guys
I had met at the time.
1168
01:04:54,723 --> 01:04:58,477
Ronnie Van Zant once-- I used to write
about Lynyrd Skynyrd a lot.
1169
01:04:58,560 --> 01:05:00,771
Love Ronnie. Still do.
1170
01:05:01,563 --> 01:05:04,566
It is one of the great tragedies
that he died early.
1171
01:05:05,359 --> 01:05:08,278
And Ronnie said to me
not long before he died
1172
01:05:08,362 --> 01:05:12,282
that there was a member of his band
that he was
1173
01:05:12,366 --> 01:05:18,831
really feeling a lot of conflict
within himself over
1174
01:05:18,914 --> 01:05:21,458
because he wanted to fire this guy,
1175
01:05:21,542 --> 01:05:24,336
but he had loyalty and couldn't do it.
1176
01:05:25,003 --> 01:05:30,008
And Ronnie died without having done that.
1177
01:05:30,092 --> 01:05:32,261
But he opened up to me and told me that.
1178
01:05:32,344 --> 01:05:36,098
I wasn't sure if it was as a journalist
or a friend, and I never wrote it.
1179
01:05:36,181 --> 01:05:39,268
But that was kind of the subtle line.
1180
01:05:39,351 --> 01:05:42,938
When you fall in with a band
and you're on the inside,
1181
01:05:43,021 --> 01:05:45,065
that line changes a lot.
1182
01:05:45,149 --> 01:05:47,025
Or, as James Brooks would write,
1183
01:05:47,109 --> 01:05:49,361
"It's a tricky thing.
The line keeps moving."
1184
01:05:51,113 --> 01:05:54,158
But those feelings are still fresh in me.
1185
01:05:54,241 --> 01:05:56,743
And that's what the movie's about.
1186
01:05:58,454 --> 01:06:00,038
Meanwhile, we...
1187
01:06:01,165 --> 01:06:03,917
-Marc Maron as the promoter.
-That's Marc Maron?
1188
01:06:04,001 --> 01:06:05,419
-Yeah.
-Oh, wow.
1189
01:06:05,502 --> 01:06:09,173
And Noah Taylor. He really got into it.
We shot this at the LA Coliseum.
1190
01:06:09,256 --> 01:06:11,008
We put the full fight in.
1191
01:06:11,091 --> 01:06:13,886
Finally, the sun was coming up.
We had to quit filming anyway.
1192
01:06:13,969 --> 01:06:18,223
But people came up and said,
"It's getting a little rough, isn't it?"
1193
01:06:18,307 --> 01:06:23,312
I love that Noah goes back inside
and then decides, "No. More fighting."
1194
01:06:24,021 --> 01:06:25,898
-That's Noah.
-Look at him.
1195
01:06:25,981 --> 01:06:27,774
-I love it. Bruce Lee.
-Yeah.
1196
01:06:27,858 --> 01:06:32,863
He wanted to add
this kind of martial arts thing to it.
1197
01:06:37,242 --> 01:06:39,411
So here was my big ...
1198
01:06:40,579 --> 01:06:43,165
Here's my first experience
with special effects,
1199
01:06:43,248 --> 01:06:47,085
later to blossom into more on Vanilla Sky
1200
01:06:47,169 --> 01:06:51,632
But this kind of move
came from Jocelyn Towne,
1201
01:06:51,715 --> 01:06:54,635
who was the stand-in for Fairuza,
who was rehearsing this scene,
1202
01:06:54,718 --> 01:06:57,012
and I saw a playback
where she ran into the wall,
1203
01:06:57,095 --> 01:06:59,181
and I said,
"Oh, my God. That's hilarious."
1204
01:06:59,264 --> 01:07:02,434
So Fairuza came in and did it
a couple of times
1205
01:07:02,518 --> 01:07:04,019
with not a lot of padding.
1206
01:07:04,102 --> 01:07:06,855
Thank you, Fairuza. Hope your arm's okay.
1207
01:07:06,939 --> 01:07:10,359
And the first time we showed the movie,
it was the biggest reaction we got.
1208
01:07:10,442 --> 01:07:14,238
We used to say to each other,
at the very least, people would say,
1209
01:07:14,321 --> 01:07:17,574
"Hey, remember that movie
where the girl runs into the wall?
1210
01:07:17,658 --> 01:07:18,867
That was good!"
1211
01:07:22,037 --> 01:07:24,164
So that was our big action sequence.
1212
01:07:27,960 --> 01:07:30,379
When I talk about the movie
creating a feeling,
1213
01:07:30,462 --> 01:07:34,049
-this is one of the big sequences that I--
-It's a lovely scene.
1214
01:07:34,132 --> 01:07:37,553
We worked hard on this.
John Toll and I wanted to capture a mood.
1215
01:07:38,262 --> 01:07:40,806
We knew we had this music, hopefully.
1216
01:07:41,682 --> 01:07:44,184
Later we showed the movie to Led Zeppelin,
1217
01:07:44,268 --> 01:07:47,062
and this was the song
where Jimmy Page said
1218
01:07:47,145 --> 01:07:51,275
he felt this was the best usage
of their music of the other stuff--
1219
01:07:52,359 --> 01:07:54,653
Of all the stuff of theirs we used.
1220
01:07:54,736 --> 01:07:59,992
They've never let their music
be used in films.
1221
01:08:00,075 --> 01:08:03,870
They let us use a little bit of "Kashmir"
in East Times,
1222
01:08:03,954 --> 01:08:05,747
but then nothing after that.
1223
01:08:05,831 --> 01:08:09,876
This song was one of five
that they let us use.
1224
01:08:09,960 --> 01:08:11,378
This actually happened.
1225
01:08:14,172 --> 01:08:16,675
Yeah, versions of this happened
like crazy--
1226
01:08:16,758 --> 01:08:19,595
The passing world outside the tour bus.
1227
01:08:20,178 --> 01:08:22,264
That was an actual girls' running team.
1228
01:08:25,392 --> 01:08:29,146
They were all back at the bar
with Mark Kozelek later, weren't they?
1229
01:08:29,229 --> 01:08:31,565
The entire girls' running team.
1230
01:08:34,484 --> 01:08:36,778
We added a little bit more to Kate here,
1231
01:08:36,862 --> 01:08:39,615
and I think elsewhere on the DVD.
1232
01:08:40,490 --> 01:08:43,201
Let's just say we went
to a lot of takes for one line
1233
01:08:43,285 --> 01:08:45,120
that didn’t even end up in the movie,
1234
01:08:45,203 --> 01:08:48,540
but it's here in the extended version.
1235
01:08:48,624 --> 01:08:51,335
-I think Kate's amazing in this scene.
-She is.
1236
01:08:51,418 --> 01:08:53,378
She just captures that spirit.
1237
01:08:54,212 --> 01:08:56,715
And that's how Pennie Trumbull was.
1238
01:08:56,798 --> 01:09:01,845
She was a guardian of the music
as well as a muse.
1239
01:09:01,928 --> 01:09:04,890
She cared most about the music...
1240
01:09:06,099 --> 01:09:08,644
and it was a holy thing to her.
1241
01:09:10,437 --> 01:09:12,856
And that was a big inspiration
for the character.
1242
01:09:12,939 --> 01:09:16,234
There are little bits of it
that have its roots in ...
1243
01:09:17,527 --> 01:09:20,739
women like Bebe Buell,
who I met down the line,
1244
01:09:20,822 --> 01:09:24,368
who were just these
larger-than-life characters
1245
01:09:24,451 --> 01:09:27,204
on the arm of some of the people
I was interviewing.
1246
01:09:27,871 --> 01:09:32,626
But at the very core of the Penny Lane
character is Pennie Lane, Pennie Trumbull.
1247
01:09:32,709 --> 01:09:35,045
Cameron, I have a question.
1248
01:09:35,128 --> 01:09:38,507
During this period of time,
a lot of these girls
1249
01:09:38,590 --> 01:09:41,718
were 16, 17.
1250
01:09:43,053 --> 01:09:45,305
One of the most famous ones was 14.
1251
01:09:45,389 --> 01:09:48,308
What about their parents?
Did they ever go home?
1252
01:09:48,392 --> 01:09:51,103
I didn't understand how that worked.
1253
01:09:51,186 --> 01:09:53,563
I remember talking to some of them
about it,
1254
01:09:53,647 --> 01:09:57,275
and a lot of times, the parents were young
because they were young,
1255
01:09:58,151 --> 01:09:59,778
and the parents sort of--
1256
01:09:59,861 --> 01:10:05,075
John Toll, thank you very much.
Look at this flare. Beautiful.
1257
01:10:05,158 --> 01:10:10,414
A lot of times,
the parents got off on it vicariously.
1258
01:10:10,497 --> 01:10:11,498
Really?
1259
01:10:11,581 --> 01:10:14,167
Their daughters going off with the Who
or something, you know?
1260
01:10:14,251 --> 01:10:16,044
-That's interesting.
-It's wild.
1261
01:10:16,128 --> 01:10:18,171
We went to go see the Sigur Rós ...
1262
01:10:19,339 --> 01:10:21,258
great Icelandic band, the other night,
1263
01:10:21,341 --> 01:10:24,886
and they had seen Almost Famous,
and one of them said
1264
01:10:24,970 --> 01:10:28,515
they really related to the scene
where the lead singer got left behind.
1265
01:10:28,598 --> 01:10:32,227
In the bathroom. Coming out
of the bathroom. I loved that touch.
1266
01:10:34,354 --> 01:10:36,857
Here's John Fedevich as Silent Ed ,
1267
01:10:36,940 --> 01:10:41,820
doing more with the two words
of his dialogue
1268
01:10:41,903 --> 01:10:43,780
than you could ever imagine.
1269
01:10:43,864 --> 01:10:45,532
I think he stole your film.
1270
01:10:46,992 --> 01:10:49,786
Frances is really great in this scene.
1271
01:10:49,870 --> 01:10:53,081
I , at the time,
thought it might be too dramatic,
1272
01:10:53,165 --> 01:10:56,501
and we reshot it to be lighter.
1273
01:10:56,585 --> 01:10:59,045
And, Frances, you know, of course,
you were right.
1274
01:10:59,129 --> 01:11:02,340
When you throw the phone down
in this scene, it just says everything.
1275
01:11:03,759 --> 01:11:06,303
She told me
she wanted her son to see this later
1276
01:11:06,386 --> 01:11:11,725
to get a glimpse
of what parental love really is.
1277
01:11:11,808 --> 01:11:14,019
-And anxiety.
-And anxiety.
1278
01:11:15,771 --> 01:11:20,525
This sequence-- As we started to
run out of money to film the movie,
1279
01:11:20,609 --> 01:11:23,445
a few scenes got cut in this sequence.
1280
01:11:24,362 --> 01:11:29,910
So I will talk you through
a few little empty spots...
1281
01:11:31,411 --> 01:11:32,746
on our shooting schedule.
1282
01:11:32,829 --> 01:11:35,207
You can't really tell
with the finished movie,
1283
01:11:36,208 --> 01:11:39,127
but if you read the script,
you can see a few of the things
1284
01:11:39,211 --> 01:11:41,046
that we meant to film in here.
1285
01:11:42,172 --> 01:11:43,965
One of them was...
1286
01:11:45,008 --> 01:11:47,677
Jeff Bebe's secret coke problem.
1287
01:11:47,761 --> 01:11:49,888
And the kid was gonna walk into--
1288
01:11:49,971 --> 01:11:52,474
This is one of my favorite scenes.
We never filmed it.
1289
01:11:52,557 --> 01:11:56,311
The kid walks into a bathroom and sees
Jeff Bebe with the local cocaine dealer,
1290
01:11:56,394 --> 01:11:58,605
who was going to be played
by Eric Johnson.
1291
01:11:58,688 --> 01:12:01,900
Good friend of ours from Seattle.
Great actor.
1292
01:12:01,983 --> 01:12:05,278
And road manager of Pearl Jam
and Neil Young and Soundgarden.
1293
01:12:05,362 --> 01:12:10,242
But he was gonna be in there
accepting some coke.
1294
01:12:10,325 --> 01:12:12,327
Eric Johnson was gonna have
his coke spoon out,
1295
01:12:12,410 --> 01:12:13,703
and Bebe was gonna be there,
1296
01:12:14,037 --> 01:12:15,330
just about to do some coke,
1297
01:12:15,413 --> 01:12:17,707
and the kid walks in
to take a clandestine note,
1298
01:12:17,791 --> 01:12:21,419
and they see each other,
like two dogs on the highway.
1299
01:12:21,503 --> 01:12:23,588
Both of them are seeing the other
1300
01:12:23,672 --> 01:12:26,508
doing something
they didn't want the other to see.
1301
01:12:26,591 --> 01:12:28,885
So the kid goes, "Hi."
1302
01:12:28,969 --> 01:12:30,929
And Bebe says, "Hey."
1303
01:12:32,222 --> 01:12:35,058
And Eric Johnson says, "Hey."
1304
01:12:35,141 --> 01:12:37,519
And the kid goes, "Hi."
1305
01:12:37,602 --> 01:12:41,940
And they both go their separate ways
and pretend they didn't see the other.
1306
01:12:42,649 --> 01:12:45,485
But that scene preceded this one.
1307
01:12:45,569 --> 01:12:51,449
So, Jason-- And we put a line in
that shows you what Jason is playing.
1308
01:12:51,533 --> 01:12:56,037
Jason is playing a guy
who's a little high on coke in this scene
1309
01:12:56,121 --> 01:12:59,583
and is hiding his continuing coke problem.
1310
01:13:03,211 --> 01:13:06,882
You can see that alluded to in this scene.
1311
01:13:06,965 --> 01:13:09,551
It ended up working
without the secret coke problem,
1312
01:13:09,634 --> 01:13:13,680
but I kind of like that the one line
that alludes to it is back in,
1313
01:13:13,763 --> 01:13:17,726
along with an extra mention
of Ian Gillan from Deep Purple.
1314
01:13:17,809 --> 01:13:21,062
T-shirts are gone... band happy. All right?
1315
01:13:23,356 --> 01:13:27,152
Can we just skip the vibe and go
straight to us laughing about this?
1316
01:13:27,235 --> 01:13:29,988
I can't tell you
how many dressing rooms I was in
1317
01:13:30,071 --> 01:13:31,990
where things like this happened.
1318
01:13:35,118 --> 01:13:39,497
And Jimmy Page actually said to me,
"He's our friend. He won't write it."
1319
01:13:40,707 --> 01:13:44,794
And in those situations,
I would later come to the band and say,
1320
01:13:45,629 --> 01:13:50,175
"I want to write it, and here's why,"
and they would usually say, "Go ahead."
1321
01:13:50,258 --> 01:13:52,385
It's a T-shirt.
1322
01:13:54,387 --> 01:13:58,016
I like showing Kate Hudson
in the background ironing his shirt.
1323
01:13:58,099 --> 01:14:01,436
-Just adds that touch of--
-It's true. That's what they did.
1324
01:14:01,519 --> 01:14:06,274
That's right.
They also played that little geisha role.
1325
01:14:06,358 --> 01:14:09,361
There's the coke line.
"Are you doing coke again, Bebe?"
1326
01:14:09,444 --> 01:14:11,947
"Oh, yeah. All the time."
1327
01:14:12,030 --> 01:14:14,366
When I saw this movie the first time,
1328
01:14:14,449 --> 01:14:18,161
the first part of the movie, the band
seems like it's getting along well,
1329
01:14:18,244 --> 01:14:22,540
and I was impressed with the fact that
you do see a dramatic turn with the band,
1330
01:14:22,624 --> 01:14:26,169
and that extends through
to the end of the movie.
1331
01:14:26,252 --> 01:14:31,800
Jason Lee in this scene, I think, really
does a good job of changing the tone.
1332
01:14:31,883 --> 01:14:33,802
Yeah. He's cool.
1333
01:14:33,885 --> 01:14:36,930
He does a really important thing here.
1334
01:14:37,013 --> 01:14:40,392
And Mark Kozelek with his "barbecue" line
1335
01:14:40,475 --> 01:14:42,394
cannot be underestimated.
1336
01:14:42,477 --> 01:14:43,561
Really.
1337
01:14:46,439 --> 01:14:48,441
"I get people off."
1338
01:14:48,525 --> 01:14:49,734
I connect.
1339
01:14:50,944 --> 01:14:52,862
I get people off!
1340
01:14:52,946 --> 01:14:55,991
Lead singers always secretly are pissed
1341
01:14:56,074 --> 01:14:59,369
that they’ve got to work harder,
they think.
1342
01:14:59,452 --> 01:15:00,578
That you can print!
1343
01:15:00,662 --> 01:15:03,665
I love that shirt. It's perfect.
1344
01:15:03,748 --> 01:15:07,252
I always look at that errant hair
every time.
1345
01:15:08,378 --> 01:15:09,838
Mark Kozelek.
1346
01:15:09,921 --> 01:15:11,297
"It is!"
1347
01:15:11,381 --> 01:15:13,717
You call yourself a leader of this band,
1348
01:15:14,300 --> 01:15:16,511
but your direction allowed this T-shirt...
1349
01:15:17,262 --> 01:15:19,848
We shot this in a cinder block
1350
01:15:19,931 --> 01:15:24,894
on the floor, I believe,
of the LA Sports Arena.
1351
01:15:24,978 --> 01:15:29,649
Is it my turn now? I think we should,
for once, say what we really mean.
1352
01:15:29,733 --> 01:15:33,528
And it is patterned after a backstage
1353
01:15:33,611 --> 01:15:37,991
that Joel Bernstein photographed
on a Neil Young tour in '73.
1354
01:15:38,074 --> 01:15:40,243
Your looks have become a problem!
1355
01:15:41,286 --> 01:15:43,663
All right, okay, enough! Break it up.
1356
01:15:43,747 --> 01:15:46,583
Everyone out of the room for five minutes.
1357
01:15:47,625 --> 01:15:51,046
There was a scene
following this one where,
1358
01:15:51,129 --> 01:15:53,965
as Billy Crudup is leaving
with Patrick Fugit,
1359
01:15:54,049 --> 01:15:57,302
Billy runs into his father,
1360
01:15:57,385 --> 01:16:01,765
who has come to the show with
a young chickadee who he's engaged to,
1361
01:16:01,848 --> 01:16:04,934
and the father was gonna be played
by Neil Young.
1362
01:16:05,018 --> 01:16:08,605
And again, we ran out of money
and weren't able to shoot it.
1363
01:16:08,688 --> 01:16:11,524
I think Neil's schedule
was shifting anyway.
1364
01:16:11,608 --> 01:16:13,902
This is one of the reasons why,
in the story,
1365
01:16:13,985 --> 01:16:17,155
he's interested in what's real
and wants to talk about the kid's family
1366
01:16:17,238 --> 01:16:21,367
because he's just seen
the subtle corruption of his own father,
1367
01:16:21,451 --> 01:16:23,495
who didn't want him to play rock
1368
01:16:23,578 --> 01:16:28,249
but now has got a babe
as a result of his son's success,
1369
01:16:28,333 --> 01:16:30,710
and he's hanging out with beers backstage.
1370
01:16:30,794 --> 01:16:35,340
I saw that situation so many times.
I think it's not exclusive to rock.
1371
01:16:35,423 --> 01:16:37,133
Happens with actors, anybody.
1372
01:16:37,217 --> 01:16:39,886
Parents that weren't originally with you
in the beginning
1373
01:16:39,969 --> 01:16:43,598
come back to the lure of the spotlight.
1374
01:16:43,681 --> 01:16:46,434
-Yes. With the young fourth wife.
-Yes.
1375
01:16:46,518 --> 01:16:49,896
Granny used to call them chickadees.
That's where you got that, Cam.
1376
01:16:51,439 --> 01:16:53,399
But anyway, so Billy...
1377
01:16:54,400 --> 01:16:57,153
Billy is playing all those textures.
1378
01:16:58,113 --> 01:17:01,407
Whether you see the scene
or we were able to film the scene or not,
1379
01:17:01,491 --> 01:17:03,785
he really-- that's what he's playing.
1380
01:17:03,868 --> 01:17:07,664
He's playing a guy
that just saw his own father corrupted.
1381
01:17:09,791 --> 01:17:12,669
This guy, we decided,
was Brad Pitt's father
1382
01:17:13,586 --> 01:17:15,088
in 1973.
1383
01:17:19,801 --> 01:17:21,970
-You're right.
-He's a good actor.
1384
01:17:22,053 --> 01:17:25,640
And he later made a movie
where he's the star, and he was great.
1385
01:17:33,606 --> 01:17:36,317
Fever Dog
They're singing in that van.
1386
01:17:44,993 --> 01:17:47,871
This is one of the best cues
in the movie, I think.
1387
01:17:47,954 --> 01:17:49,956
"Everybody Knows This Is Nowhere."
1388
01:17:52,876 --> 01:17:55,378
Clay, production designers,
1389
01:17:55,461 --> 01:17:58,256
everybody did such a great job
on this house.
1390
01:17:58,339 --> 01:18:01,217
"I grew up with that lamp."
What a fine line.
1391
01:18:01,301 --> 01:18:02,302
Thanks.
1392
01:18:02,385 --> 01:18:05,763
Yes, it's one of my--
"I grew up with that lamp." Perfect.
1393
01:18:05,847 --> 01:18:10,727
It's funny. The hardest thing to catch
in a movie is just the achingly normal.
1394
01:18:12,270 --> 01:18:15,106
-Oh, man.
-Oh, it's wonderful.
1395
01:18:15,190 --> 01:18:18,693
Do I love this guy.
Chris was his name, and he plays Aaron.
1396
01:18:18,776 --> 01:18:21,613
We added an extra line for him.
He's great.
1397
01:18:21,696 --> 01:18:24,157
There's Julia...
1398
01:18:24,240 --> 01:18:26,576
-Julia Schuler.
-Julia Schuler, of course.
1399
01:18:26,659 --> 01:18:29,579
Who later becomes the waving girl
in the "Tiny Dancer" scene.
1400
01:18:29,662 --> 01:18:31,915
Real, you know?
1401
01:18:32,957 --> 01:18:34,751
I love this kid.
1402
01:18:35,585 --> 01:18:38,963
This is the kind of scene
they have to literally pull me away from
1403
01:18:39,047 --> 01:18:44,510
because I'll just shoot it all day long,
just for pure entertainment purposes.
1404
01:18:44,594 --> 01:18:47,597
-I could shoot this guy nodding forever.
-That face. So could I.
1405
01:18:47,680 --> 01:18:49,849
-And I think I did.
-Oh, that's wonderful.
1406
01:18:49,933 --> 01:18:51,559
Want to see me feed a mouse to my snake?
1407
01:18:51,643 --> 01:18:53,019
Yes.
1408
01:18:53,102 --> 01:18:54,729
Can I have that bitchin 'belt?
1409
01:18:54,812 --> 01:18:57,565
That's Tom Petty's son. Must be.
1410
01:18:57,649 --> 01:18:58,983
That's Tom Petty's dad.
1411
01:19:00,735 --> 01:19:02,695
Thank you, brother.
1412
01:19:05,448 --> 01:19:07,992
So, that happened
to Glenn Hughes from Deep Purple.
1413
01:19:08,076 --> 01:19:11,037
He gave a guy a belt, I remember.
1414
01:19:11,120 --> 01:19:14,290
"Want to see me feed a mouse
to my snake?" is a little tribute
1415
01:19:14,374 --> 01:19:16,751
to Chuck Stilson, who I grew up with.
1416
01:19:16,834 --> 01:19:19,128
Remember Chuck? Chuck and Mick?
1417
01:19:19,212 --> 01:19:20,672
-I do.
-Yeah.
1418
01:19:23,466 --> 01:19:24,467
Yeah.
1419
01:19:24,550 --> 01:19:26,386
Topeka. Check it out.
1420
01:19:26,469 --> 01:19:30,098
Please, don't give him any more acid.
Thank you.
1421
01:19:30,181 --> 01:19:33,726
This guy standing next to Patrick
really was in a bad mood the whole shoot,
1422
01:19:33,810 --> 01:19:36,479
so we cast him as... Chris Davis?
1423
01:19:36,562 --> 01:19:38,982
-Yeah.
-We cast him as a guy in a bad mood.
1424
01:19:39,065 --> 01:19:41,943
Now, John Patrick Amedori,
1425
01:19:42,026 --> 01:19:45,196
who just played
in that little guitar sequence,
1426
01:19:45,280 --> 01:19:47,949
is one of our spiritual guiding forces
on the movie
1427
01:19:48,032 --> 01:19:51,744
with a tape he sent us on an audition,
where he just was talking about music.
1428
01:19:51,828 --> 01:19:53,955
I am a golden god!
1429
01:19:54,038 --> 01:19:56,624
We used to watch that tape
all the time as inspiration.
1430
01:19:57,166 --> 01:20:00,712
A young guy already finding
his calling in life as a guitarist.
1431
01:20:00,795 --> 01:20:02,338
An amazing piece of film.
1432
01:20:02,422 --> 01:20:04,215
I love that algae on the pool.
1433
01:20:04,299 --> 01:20:06,884
Thank you.
We worked very hard on the algae.
1434
01:20:08,386 --> 01:20:11,139
I hope everyone appreciates
that algae in the pool.
1435
01:20:11,222 --> 01:20:15,268
Mom, if you spotted it, you’re the first.
1436
01:20:15,351 --> 01:20:16,811
Thank you.
1437
01:20:18,146 --> 01:20:19,397
"I'm on drugs."
1438
01:20:20,523 --> 01:20:21,524
Yeah!
1439
01:20:25,862 --> 01:20:29,365
This was--
We filmed this out in Tarzana, right?
1440
01:20:29,449 --> 01:20:30,950
At a real house.
1441
01:20:31,034 --> 01:20:32,327
We should work on those last words!
1442
01:20:32,410 --> 01:20:34,746
Oh, I got it, I got it, I got it.
1443
01:20:34,829 --> 01:20:38,291
Billy was great. His girlfriend,
Mary Louise, was on the set that night.
1444
01:20:38,374 --> 01:20:39,375
Billy is great.
1445
01:20:39,459 --> 01:20:43,254
The whole time we were making the movie,
we were trying to come up with a title.
1446
01:20:43,338 --> 01:20:47,508
And I remember Mary Louise having a title.
1447
01:20:47,592 --> 01:20:51,179
Wasn’t it Comes a Time
Thought that was a pretty good title.
1448
01:20:51,262 --> 01:20:52,847
-Is that she?
-No.
1449
01:20:52,930 --> 01:20:56,684
She's in a chair behind the camera,
watching.
1450
01:20:57,352 --> 01:20:59,103
But it was a derby. The fans...
1451
01:20:59,187 --> 01:21:00,730
Jump!
1452
01:21:00,813 --> 01:21:04,025
...the extras were trying to come up
with titles for us.
1453
01:21:04,108 --> 01:21:06,778
The crew was trying to come up
with titles.
1454
01:21:06,861 --> 01:21:09,906
We had a big box. Everybody
would put suggested titles in it.
1455
01:21:11,199 --> 01:21:14,577
Nothing was ever as good to me
as Untitled for the longest time,
1456
01:21:14,660 --> 01:21:16,621
although I'm now used to Almost Famous.
1457
01:21:17,622 --> 01:21:19,749
But the movie
wanted to be called Untitled
1458
01:21:19,832 --> 01:21:22,251
like the fourth Zeppelin album,
1459
01:21:22,335 --> 01:21:28,341
or a painting that just was shaking off
all notions of a title.
1460
01:21:29,133 --> 01:21:33,388
But I do remember my favorite
of all the submitted titles--
1461
01:21:33,471 --> 01:21:35,098
Saving William's Privates.
1462
01:21:35,181 --> 01:21:38,267
I thought that was good. I really did.
1463
01:21:43,731 --> 01:21:46,275
I never got to tell Billy Crudup
on the set
1464
01:21:46,359 --> 01:21:48,194
what an outstanding actor he is,
1465
01:21:48,277 --> 01:21:49,904
and I'm telling him now.
1466
01:21:52,281 --> 01:21:53,241
There's John Patrick Amedori.
1467
01:21:53,324 --> 01:21:54,700
I see what you're doing.
1468
01:21:54,784 --> 01:21:55,785
"And I like it."
1469
01:21:55,868 --> 01:21:57,286
And I like it.
1470
01:21:57,995 --> 01:22:01,958
Gregg Allman, when I was on the road
with the Allman Brothers,
1471
01:22:02,750 --> 01:22:08,756
there was a moment
where Gregg turned a little dark on me.
1472
01:22:08,840 --> 01:22:11,509
And this is a sort of a...
1473
01:22:11,592 --> 01:22:13,928
How do we know you're not a cop? Huh?
1474
01:22:14,011 --> 01:22:17,390
...a tip-of-the-hat moment that happened
on the road with the Allman Brothers
1475
01:22:17,473 --> 01:22:20,560
where all of a sudden you think,
"Man, I'm living a dream."
1476
01:22:20,643 --> 01:22:22,520
-A nightmare.
-"I'm living a nightmare."
1477
01:22:23,187 --> 01:22:26,399
I didn't find out about that
till about 20 years later.
1478
01:22:26,482 --> 01:22:29,735
Well, Gregg, to Gregg's credit, you know,
there was only one night
1479
01:22:29,819 --> 01:22:35,199
where he began to question this kid
that was hanging around for weeks.
1480
01:22:36,534 --> 01:22:38,327
-Underage.
-Underage.
1481
01:22:38,411 --> 01:22:40,037
And later, Neal Preston was doing--
1482
01:22:40,121 --> 01:22:43,458
Many years later, just a couple years ago,
Neal was photographing Gregg Allman--
1483
01:22:43,541 --> 01:22:44,750
John Toll flare. Thank you.
1484
01:22:45,501 --> 01:22:47,879
Was photographing Gregg Allman
and Gregg Allman said--
1485
01:22:47,962 --> 01:22:52,467
'Cause Neal Preston
was on the road with us as well
1486
01:22:52,550 --> 01:22:53,885
on the Allman Brothers tour.
1487
01:22:53,968 --> 01:22:56,596
He said, "Whatever happened
to that guy, Cameron?"
1488
01:22:56,679 --> 01:22:59,390
And Neal said, "He's making movies now."
And Gregg said, "Really?
1489
01:23:01,058 --> 01:23:03,436
We really put that kid
through the wringer."
1490
01:23:04,812 --> 01:23:07,857
And the funny thing was,
I had already filmed the movie
1491
01:23:07,940 --> 01:23:09,442
about being put through the wringer.
1492
01:23:09,525 --> 01:23:12,820
Julia, wonderful moment there
blowing kisses.
1493
01:23:16,782 --> 01:23:18,951
I made everybody sing "Tiny Dancer"...
1494
01:23:19,035 --> 01:23:21,704
-People love this scene, Cameron.
-.. .so many times on the bus.
1495
01:23:21,787 --> 01:23:27,168
I think, towards the end, Noah just said,
"I can’t sing this anymore," and wouldn't.
1496
01:23:27,251 --> 01:23:29,629
-So, he doesn't quite sing-- There he is.
-There he is.
1497
01:23:29,712 --> 01:23:30,963
He's a little nauseous.
1498
01:23:31,964 --> 01:23:35,468
But I always loved "Tiny Dancer."
1499
01:23:37,178 --> 01:23:41,474
One of my favorite songs
not only from the era, but of all time,
1500
01:23:41,557 --> 01:23:46,395
from one of the great, great albums,
Madman Across the Water.
1501
01:23:46,479 --> 01:23:51,400
And Elton John sent us
the original tracks of it
1502
01:23:51,484 --> 01:23:55,738
so we could separate and remix it
as we needed to.
1503
01:23:55,821 --> 01:23:57,823
And we listened--
One day on the mixing stage,
1504
01:23:57,907 --> 01:24:01,911
we put up the original tracks
of "Tiny Dancer" and listened to it.
1505
01:24:02,787 --> 01:24:07,250
And it is so well recorded.
It's such a-- I mean, it's mostly live.
1506
01:24:07,333 --> 01:24:09,252
It was ready to happen,
you could tell, that song.
1507
01:24:09,335 --> 01:24:12,547
But the amazing thing is,
right before it starts, Elton John goes--
1508
01:24:12,630 --> 01:24:15,550
And you don't hear this on the record
or anything, but Elton John goes...
1509
01:24:16,717 --> 01:24:19,512
"Adam Dick. What a strange name."
1510
01:24:19,595 --> 01:24:22,181
And then he begins playing "Tiny Dancer."
1511
01:24:22,890 --> 01:24:27,478
So, later, I heard from Elton John
after the movie came out.
1512
01:24:28,145 --> 01:24:31,357
He left a phone number and I called him
and he was in the studio doing, I guess,
1513
01:24:31,440 --> 01:24:34,068
the Songs from the West Coast album.
1514
01:24:34,151 --> 01:24:36,988
And I talked to him and he talked
about the movie and he was great
1515
01:24:37,071 --> 01:24:41,367
and liked the way we used "Tiny Dancer,"
and I said, “Who's Adam Dick?"
1516
01:24:41,450 --> 01:24:43,578
And he said, "Oh, God knows.
I have no idea.
1517
01:24:43,661 --> 01:24:48,291
That's all drifted away and gone now.
But I'll let you know if I figure it out."
1518
01:24:49,208 --> 01:24:51,377
So, if anybody knows who Adam Dick is...
1519
01:24:53,588 --> 01:24:56,591
it's the last word spoken
before Elton John ...
1520
01:24:57,842 --> 01:24:59,260
recorded the song.
1521
01:24:59,343 --> 01:25:03,097
-"You are home."
-Patrick is just in another world here.
1522
01:25:04,015 --> 01:25:05,600
That's right.
1523
01:25:05,683 --> 01:25:07,518
Tumbleweeds blowing through his eyes.
1524
01:25:11,063 --> 01:25:14,066
And I'm really proud of this moment.
1525
01:25:15,067 --> 01:25:19,238
We blew off a couple extra scenes
to spend more time shooting "Tiny Dancer."
1526
01:25:19,322 --> 01:25:20,948
There's my dress.
1527
01:25:21,032 --> 01:25:23,659
There's your dress.
And that was your exact--
1528
01:25:23,743 --> 01:25:25,620
-Navy blue.
-The geography of your classroom.
1529
01:25:25,703 --> 01:25:28,247
It was navy blue with embroidery.
Yes, my classroom.
1530
01:25:29,040 --> 01:25:31,500
Or it could just be hormones.
1531
01:25:33,002 --> 01:25:34,754
-I love this girl taking notes.
-Yeah.
1532
01:25:34,837 --> 01:25:36,589
Yeah. Wasn't that great?
1533
01:25:36,672 --> 01:25:39,050
Rock stars have kidnapped my son.
1534
01:25:39,133 --> 01:25:40,092
And they did.
1535
01:25:42,136 --> 01:25:47,016
It was Walter Parkes' idea
to put this cut of the girl putting--
1536
01:25:47,099 --> 01:25:49,393
You know, taking notes on
"rock stars kidnapped my son."
1537
01:25:49,477 --> 01:25:52,146
And that was sort of what made the scene.
1538
01:25:52,229 --> 01:25:56,901
Without that little cut, it didn't feel
the way it ended up feeling.
1539
01:25:56,984 --> 01:25:58,611
-So, thank you, Walter.
-Yes.
1540
01:25:59,945 --> 01:26:03,908
Now, this speech, I-- I love this speech.
1541
01:26:03,991 --> 01:26:07,787
It's based partially on
a Keith Richards interview from the day.
1542
01:26:07,870 --> 01:26:14,460
And also it was a little bit of a comment
to the guys from Seattle
1543
01:26:14,543 --> 01:26:18,339
that made a little bit too much of a show
about how they didn't want to be popular
1544
01:26:18,422 --> 01:26:21,634
while simultaneously craving popularity.
1545
01:26:21,717 --> 01:26:23,594
I just thought,
let's do a speech about a guy
1546
01:26:23,678 --> 01:26:27,807
that just openly worships popularity
1547
01:26:27,890 --> 01:26:31,936
and has figured out a theology
over popularity.
1548
01:26:32,019 --> 01:26:34,397
And so, Jason brings that to life.
1549
01:26:34,480 --> 01:26:37,692
Kurt Russell was also on the set that day
and told me,
1550
01:26:37,775 --> 01:26:40,236
"You know, I haven’t acted in a few years,
1551
01:26:40,319 --> 01:26:42,905
but watching these guys in the band
do these scenes,
1552
01:26:42,988 --> 01:26:44,615
it makes me want to act again."
1553
01:26:45,658 --> 01:26:49,662
And he's in our new movie, Vanilla Sky
1554
01:26:50,496 --> 01:26:52,373
I took him at his word.
1555
01:26:53,624 --> 01:26:56,127
This scene, of course,
was not in the original movie.
1556
01:26:56,210 --> 01:26:57,545
I love this stuff.
1557
01:26:57,628 --> 01:27:02,383
And that shot in particular
is just really evocative of the time.
1558
01:27:02,466 --> 01:27:05,177
And, you know, she also looks pretty hot.
1559
01:27:07,012 --> 01:27:09,932
But Jason is just on fire.
1560
01:27:10,015 --> 01:27:13,936
And Patrick, who echoed the character
so much as we were doing the movie,
1561
01:27:14,019 --> 01:27:17,690
Patrick was starting
to get a little weary, I think.
1562
01:27:17,773 --> 01:27:21,986
And the weariness that naturally happened
because it was a long shoot
1563
01:27:22,069 --> 01:27:24,613
just helped the character--
you can see it.
1564
01:27:24,697 --> 01:27:27,116
He's getting bags under his eyes.
1565
01:27:27,199 --> 01:27:28,617
Some of that's makeup.
1566
01:27:31,203 --> 01:27:34,498
Originally that song was "Sloop John B"
by the Beach Boys on that sequence.
1567
01:27:34,582 --> 01:27:40,796
And Nancy went in and did a new cue
for the DVD release.
1568
01:27:40,880 --> 01:27:44,842
And it’s very great. Thank you, Nance.
1569
01:27:46,427 --> 01:27:47,803
Joe Hutshing, our editor, feels
1570
01:27:47,887 --> 01:27:52,558
that is the deepest cigarette inhale
ever captured on film. I think he's right.
1571
01:27:56,562 --> 01:27:58,481
Yes, you used to write on your hands.
1572
01:27:58,564 --> 01:27:59,815
-I remember.
-I did.
1573
01:27:59,899 --> 01:28:01,776
It's funny-- People are so hilarious
1574
01:28:01,859 --> 01:28:06,614
with the way they're just always dying
to find gaffes in movies.
1575
01:28:06,989 --> 01:28:08,032
I'm the same way.
1576
01:28:08,115 --> 01:28:09,784
So many people
have come up to me and said ,
1577
01:28:09,867 --> 01:28:12,411
"There weren't Post-its back then.
You know that.
1578
01:28:12,495 --> 01:28:14,413
There weren’t such a thing as Post-its."
1579
01:28:14,497 --> 01:28:20,503
And, in fact, it's folded yellow legal
tablet pieces of paper on the bathtub.
1580
01:28:20,586 --> 01:28:22,838
-That's right.
-But it looks like Post-its.
1581
01:28:23,756 --> 01:28:26,926
It's true.
Post-its didn't exist back then.
1582
01:28:27,510 --> 01:28:29,804
-But this scene did happen.
-I love that hat.
1583
01:28:29,887 --> 01:28:31,222
I know. I love that hat.
1584
01:28:31,305 --> 01:28:34,058
-How did you come up with that hat?
-This scene...
1585
01:28:36,644 --> 01:28:38,562
Wasn’t that hat planned for another scene?
1586
01:28:38,646 --> 01:28:42,024
It used to be on Fairuza
when she did her line from La Dolce Vita.
1587
01:28:42,107 --> 01:28:46,362
Right. It used to be
Sapphire's character's hat.
1588
01:28:46,445 --> 01:28:50,074
And so, we figured
she passed it along to Penny Lane.
1589
01:28:51,116 --> 01:28:52,535
And the ludes.
1590
01:28:52,618 --> 01:28:54,203
And the ludes. Of course.
1591
01:28:55,329 --> 01:28:56,747
The hat and the ludes.
1592
01:28:59,375 --> 01:29:01,919
I remember a conversation with John Toll
about this and he said,
1593
01:29:02,002 --> 01:29:06,757
"You know, I really have a problem
with scenes where a character pees."
1594
01:29:07,591 --> 01:29:09,301
And I said, "You know, I do too."
1595
01:29:10,427 --> 01:29:13,389
But maybe it’s just not about her peeing.
1596
01:29:13,472 --> 01:29:15,975
Maybe it's about the relationship
between the two of them.
1597
01:29:16,058 --> 01:29:19,770
Let's not be cute
and have a big peeing sound on there.
1598
01:29:19,854 --> 01:29:23,148
And maybe we'll just add
a little something new
1599
01:29:23,232 --> 01:29:25,150
to the genre of peeing scenes.
1600
01:29:26,068 --> 01:29:29,697
And in the end,
I think we sidestepped it a bit.
1601
01:29:33,242 --> 01:29:36,328
-I think the hat helped kind of change it.
-Yes, it did.
1602
01:29:36,412 --> 01:29:39,331
But the idea of the scene, of course,
and the reason that she's doing that
1603
01:29:39,415 --> 01:29:41,125
is that he's become one of the girls,
1604
01:29:41,208 --> 01:29:42,877
but he doesn't want to be
one of the girls.
1605
01:29:42,960 --> 01:29:44,712
-That's it.
-He wants to be the guy.
1606
01:29:44,795 --> 01:29:45,796
Yeah.
1607
01:29:45,880 --> 01:29:47,214
Your time has come.
1608
01:29:47,298 --> 01:29:49,758
And ironically, he gets to be the guy.
1609
01:29:49,842 --> 01:29:50,885
Opie must die.
1610
01:29:52,678 --> 01:29:54,555
And this happened to me.
1611
01:29:56,432 --> 01:29:58,017
And the song--
1612
01:29:59,101 --> 01:30:01,437
This was the actual performance
from Midnight Special
1613
01:30:01,520 --> 01:30:04,565
that was on TV at the time.
1614
01:30:04,648 --> 01:30:06,275
Steely Dan.
1615
01:30:06,358 --> 01:30:10,362
And they gave us the rights,
although I think Donald Fagen said,
1616
01:30:10,446 --> 01:30:12,740
"This is the single worst performance ever
of Steely Dan.
1617
01:30:12,823 --> 01:30:14,909
I'm horrified you guys are using it."
1618
01:30:14,992 --> 01:30:17,620
But he let us use it anyway,
which was great.
1619
01:30:17,703 --> 01:30:18,871
Thank you, Donald.
1620
01:30:18,954 --> 01:30:21,874
And I like it that Anna Paquin
is wearing '70s pants.
1621
01:30:21,957 --> 01:30:26,629
-No thongs, no cut way high on the thighs.
-Yeah.
1622
01:30:26,712 --> 01:30:28,589
Those were '70s panties.
1623
01:30:28,672 --> 01:30:33,844
John Toll did an amazing thing here
where he lights Patrick's eyes
1624
01:30:33,928 --> 01:30:37,431
so that you can see the girls
and their scarves moving around the room,
1625
01:30:37,514 --> 01:30:40,893
which really is one of those things
that you sit in a room
1626
01:30:40,976 --> 01:30:43,979
and you watch the dailies of
and you say, "Oh, my God.
1627
01:30:45,064 --> 01:30:46,231
This is great."
1628
01:30:46,315 --> 01:30:50,778
So original. The seduction scene
is expressed through the eyes alone.
1629
01:30:50,861 --> 01:30:54,365
Well, Patrick knew this scene was coming
and I didn't tell him--
1630
01:30:54,448 --> 01:30:57,785
I didn't tell any of the girls or Patrick
how I wanted to film it
1631
01:30:57,868 --> 01:30:59,036
because I didn't really know,
1632
01:30:59,119 --> 01:31:03,540
and I think they were all kind of dreading
there was gonna be some nude romp-a-thon.
1633
01:31:03,624 --> 01:31:06,001
But what I wanted it to be
was a scene from the circus.
1634
01:31:06,085 --> 01:31:10,756
And in the end, it got staged kind of
innocently as a scene from the circus,
1635
01:31:10,839 --> 01:31:13,217
which is how it felt to me at the time.
1636
01:31:13,300 --> 01:31:15,928
And at the end of the day,
Patrick was like, "ls that it?
1637
01:31:16,011 --> 01:31:18,180
Come on, we gotta keep shooting this."
1638
01:31:18,931 --> 01:31:21,558
So, by the end of it,
he had gone from dread--
1639
01:31:22,226 --> 01:31:26,814
You know, 'cause I think it's no secret
he was a virgin back then.
1640
01:31:26,897 --> 01:31:28,399
May still be, for all we know.
1641
01:31:29,149 --> 01:31:31,443
But he was dreading it so much.
1642
01:31:31,527 --> 01:31:34,530
And then something happened
while we were filming it
1643
01:31:34,613 --> 01:31:36,365
and I think he just, you know--
1644
01:31:37,908 --> 01:31:39,368
He came alive.
1645
01:31:42,287 --> 01:31:44,832
But that's the scene.
That's how I always wanted it to be.
1646
01:31:44,915 --> 01:31:46,709
And Nancy's cue really captured it.
1647
01:31:46,792 --> 01:31:50,295
I wanted it to feel a little bit like,
again, a Truffaut film ...
1648
01:31:53,632 --> 01:31:55,342
where you get the feeling.
1649
01:31:55,426 --> 01:31:57,678
And it’s about the feeling of being there.
1650
01:31:57,761 --> 01:31:59,638
And how old were you, Cameron?
1651
01:31:59,722 --> 01:32:02,057
Anyway, this is Ben Fong-Torres.
1652
01:32:04,810 --> 01:32:06,145
I was 15.
1653
01:32:09,523 --> 01:32:11,150
There.
1654
01:32:12,276 --> 01:32:15,070
I love the writing on your hand thing.
1655
01:32:15,154 --> 01:32:17,364
And also, this is so good.
1656
01:32:17,448 --> 01:32:19,992
Terry Chen plays Ben Fong-Torres
as a guy with no middle gears.
1657
01:32:20,075 --> 01:32:22,578
He's either angry or happy.
1658
01:32:24,413 --> 01:32:25,581
See, now he's happy.
1659
01:32:27,499 --> 01:32:30,252
It's good.
Ben himself does have the middle gear.
1660
01:32:31,670 --> 01:32:35,549
Maybe in the sequel, we can do more Ben
1661
01:32:35,632 --> 01:32:38,135
and get into more aspects
of Ben Fong-Torres.
1662
01:32:38,218 --> 01:32:39,678
Some coffee.
1663
01:32:39,762 --> 01:32:41,847
Me too.
1664
01:32:41,930 --> 01:32:43,932
Greenville is so boring.
1665
01:32:44,016 --> 01:32:47,144
You know, any other city in the world...
1666
01:32:47,227 --> 01:32:49,396
-The morning after.
-The morning after.
1667
01:32:49,480 --> 01:32:52,399
- Oh, God. Oh, God.
- What?
1668
01:32:52,483 --> 01:32:56,320
I've never written anything more
than a few pages in my whole life.
1669
01:32:56,403 --> 01:32:59,615
-Don't worry, baby, you will.
-I gotta find Russell.
1670
01:32:59,698 --> 01:33:02,034
Fairuza just says this next line
with such--
1671
01:33:02,117 --> 01:33:03,577
Will you take the laundry?
1672
01:33:03,660 --> 01:33:06,997
I don't think it's the first time
she's told a guy to take the laundry out.
1673
01:33:10,084 --> 01:33:12,795
And he's not the first guy
to have done it, I'm sure.
1674
01:33:13,670 --> 01:33:17,883
I love what Fairuza brought to this scene,
and Anna, who took a small part...
1675
01:33:18,926 --> 01:33:20,969
just to kind of be along for the ride,
was great.
1676
01:33:21,053 --> 01:33:23,472
I love having this extra cut of Jason,
1677
01:33:23,555 --> 01:33:26,975
who's actually a musician,
playing in his room.
1678
01:33:27,059 --> 01:33:29,061
-His own composition.
-His own composition.
1679
01:33:29,686 --> 01:33:31,313
Noah with Beth from Denver.
1680
01:33:34,316 --> 01:33:35,651
And ...
1681
01:33:37,152 --> 01:33:39,113
And your original backpack.
1682
01:33:40,072 --> 01:33:41,657
That's true.
1683
01:33:42,991 --> 01:33:48,914
This scene was important because
now he's ready to go home from the circus.
1684
01:33:48,997 --> 01:33:55,629
And this is where
the circus has arrested him
1685
01:33:55,712 --> 01:33:57,589
and is taking him along for the ride.
1686
01:33:57,673 --> 01:34:00,092
-And it sours.
-And it sours.
1687
01:34:00,175 --> 01:34:03,595
And this got cut down a little bit
because this was a section
1688
01:34:03,679 --> 01:34:08,267
that dragged a bit
in the longer versions of the movie.
1689
01:34:08,350 --> 01:34:10,477
But funny, in this new format...
1690
01:34:11,812 --> 01:34:13,564
we put it back in.
1691
01:34:15,023 --> 01:34:17,943
This extra here, I think her name is...
1692
01:34:19,153 --> 01:34:20,362
I forget her name.
1693
01:34:20,445 --> 01:34:23,907
The St. Pauli Girl maid
also appears in Vanilla Sky
1694
01:34:25,117 --> 01:34:26,243
Where is she in Vanilla--
1695
01:34:26,326 --> 01:34:28,620
She's the girl in the elevator
when Tom looks in the elevator
1696
01:34:28,704 --> 01:34:30,998
and says, "It's a nightmare!"
1697
01:34:31,081 --> 01:34:32,332
She almost gets run over.
1698
01:34:33,250 --> 01:34:34,418
She almost gets run over.
1699
01:34:38,922 --> 01:34:41,008
And I love this sequence here.
1700
01:34:43,510 --> 01:34:47,431
This is when Patrick's character
gets in a bad mood.
1701
01:34:48,473 --> 01:34:50,976
When you start to know people
and they know you enough
1702
01:34:51,059 --> 01:34:56,273
so that you just allow them to see you
in your cranky mood, I love that.
1703
01:34:56,356 --> 01:34:59,776
And what makes him more cranky
is that there's such great chemistry
1704
01:34:59,860 --> 01:35:01,820
between Penny Lane and Russell Hammond.
1705
01:35:01,904 --> 01:35:04,364
They're a couple.
They're clearly a couple.
1706
01:35:04,448 --> 01:35:06,783
And he has to wake up from the nightmare
1707
01:35:06,867 --> 01:35:09,536
to see the nightmare again--
them together.
1708
01:35:09,620 --> 01:35:11,413
Look at them. And they're saying--
1709
01:35:11,496 --> 01:35:14,666
They're trying to hypnotize him
into being in a good mood.
1710
01:35:14,750 --> 01:35:17,085
And he just won't go there.
1711
01:35:20,255 --> 01:35:22,549
This is one of the scenes
that got Patrick hired.
1712
01:35:22,633 --> 01:35:26,887
He came in to LA from Utah.
He auditioned with this scene.
1713
01:35:26,970 --> 01:35:31,141
And I loved his kind of sweet bad temper.
1714
01:35:32,184 --> 01:35:34,561
-And.. .
-His stubbornness.
1715
01:35:34,645 --> 01:35:36,021
Yeah, his stubbornness.
1716
01:35:36,104 --> 01:35:38,232
"Read my lips.
I'm not going to Cleveland."
1717
01:35:38,315 --> 01:35:41,151
I love when he gets bitchy there
and says, "It's all happening."
1718
01:35:41,235 --> 01:35:42,861
And they're entertained by him.
1719
01:35:42,945 --> 01:35:46,448
And this look he gives right before
we go to the dissolve is tremendous.
1720
01:35:46,531 --> 01:35:47,741
Yes. His eyes.
1721
01:35:48,242 --> 01:35:50,327
Yeah. Patrick, thank you.
1722
01:35:50,410 --> 01:35:52,412
This was a Herculean task.
1723
01:35:56,667 --> 01:35:59,670
This is a little tribute
to Todd Rundgren there in the chair.
1724
01:36:00,796 --> 01:36:03,632
Swingos Celebrity Inn was the--
1725
01:36:04,883 --> 01:36:06,760
Once you got out of LA,
the only other place
1726
01:36:06,843 --> 01:36:08,804
that gave you the feeling
of the Hyatt House
1727
01:36:08,887 --> 01:36:10,889
was Swingos Celebrity Inn, that lobby.
1728
01:36:10,973 --> 01:36:12,891
So they find it again.
1729
01:36:12,975 --> 01:36:16,103
-We're gonna see my daughter, Cindy Weber.
-Oh, that's right.
1730
01:36:16,186 --> 01:36:18,772
Her husband and her twin daughters
and Kaitlyn.
1731
01:36:18,855 --> 01:36:20,274
There it is. There's my daughter.
1732
01:36:20,357 --> 01:36:23,902
Yeah, the real Anita Miller there
and her family.
1733
01:36:28,699 --> 01:36:33,328
This was from the great
Ziggy Stardust show at Santa Monica Civic,
1734
01:36:33,412 --> 01:36:34,871
one of the famous boots--
1735
01:36:37,249 --> 01:36:38,792
"Waiting for the Man" from that show.
1736
01:36:38,875 --> 01:36:41,920
David Bowie allowed us to have it
and that's cool.
1737
01:36:42,004 --> 01:36:43,880
We added a little bit more
to this sequence.
1738
01:36:45,549 --> 01:36:49,803
Danny Bramson, who is my partner
in all things music and more...
1739
01:36:52,180 --> 01:36:55,392
did such a great job getting all the--
Oh, I love this rap.
1740
01:36:55,475 --> 01:36:59,688
Noah about the real truth
of being a Stillwater fan.
1741
01:37:00,314 --> 01:37:03,692
Anyway, in that scene where
Kate did her very tasteful nude scene,
1742
01:37:03,775 --> 01:37:09,906
Danny brought his kid Joshua, my godson,
to the set, and his eyes got so big.
1743
01:37:09,990 --> 01:37:12,868
He was just walking around in this room
and there's Kate in the coat
1744
01:37:12,951 --> 01:37:16,413
with sort of obviously nothing,
or nothing much, underneath it,
1745
01:37:16,496 --> 01:37:18,707
and she had a bottle of champagne,
and I could just--
1746
01:37:18,790 --> 01:37:21,501
I looked in little Joshua's eyes
and I saw,
1747
01:37:21,585 --> 01:37:25,380
this kid is gonna want to be
a director really badly.
1748
01:37:26,173 --> 01:37:27,507
And he just didn't--
1749
01:37:27,591 --> 01:37:30,635
I'd say, "Josh, we have to start filming
in this room.
1750
01:37:30,719 --> 01:37:33,096
You want to maybe leave?"
1751
01:37:33,680 --> 01:37:34,890
"No!"
1752
01:37:36,558 --> 01:37:38,769
So, what happens is--
1753
01:37:38,852 --> 01:37:42,314
There's Jocelyn Towne and Jessica.
1754
01:37:42,397 --> 01:37:44,107
-Athena.
-Athena.
1755
01:37:44,191 --> 01:37:47,402
These are all great little performances.
1756
01:37:49,112 --> 01:37:51,907
Jessica Campbell there
was Kate's stand-in.
1757
01:37:51,990 --> 01:37:53,241
Well, yeah.
1758
01:37:54,034 --> 01:37:58,080
He worships you people. That's fine
as long as he helps make you rich.
1759
01:37:58,163 --> 01:38:01,666
Frances filmed her side of this scene
1760
01:38:01,750 --> 01:38:03,835
late one night
at the end of a very long day
1761
01:38:03,919 --> 01:38:05,670
and she had a lot of dialogue.
1762
01:38:06,838 --> 01:38:09,466
It's funny, when we put the movie together
and showed it,
1763
01:38:09,549 --> 01:38:11,426
she drew cheers for this scene.
1764
01:38:12,594 --> 01:38:17,307
So, a lesson to hopeful actors is,
1765
01:38:17,391 --> 01:38:21,520
sometimes your biggest moments have to be
done at the end of a long, exhausting day.
1766
01:38:21,603 --> 01:38:24,439
And if your shit's together...
1767
01:38:26,066 --> 01:38:27,442
you will have done it all.
1768
01:38:27,526 --> 01:38:31,113
-And she brought the game big-time.
-Yes.
1769
01:38:32,030 --> 01:38:35,659
The most frequently asked questions of me
1770
01:38:35,742 --> 01:38:39,788
when I did a little press
for the video of this film was,
1771
01:38:39,871 --> 01:38:42,249
did this scene really happen?
1772
01:38:42,332 --> 01:38:45,919
And with whom was I speaking?
Who was I talking to?
1773
01:38:47,045 --> 01:38:51,633
Well, you talked to Glenn Hughes
from Deep Purple, who came to our house.
1774
01:38:52,676 --> 01:38:54,678
Like Billy at the end of the movie.
1775
01:38:54,761 --> 01:38:58,682
You talked to Glenn Frey on the phone.
You talked to Gregg Allman on the phone.
1776
01:39:00,142 --> 01:39:03,895
Basically, when editors or people
were calling for phone interviews,
1777
01:39:03,979 --> 01:39:05,981
-you'd of fen pick up the phone.
-I know.
1778
01:39:06,064 --> 01:39:08,442
And sometimes you'd get into it.
1779
01:39:12,195 --> 01:39:14,823
We only had time for one take of this...
1780
01:39:16,199 --> 01:39:18,743
'cause we had a whole audience
in the next room.
1781
01:39:18,827 --> 01:39:20,203
So we did one take.
1782
01:39:20,287 --> 01:39:23,790
It's a very long take that actually goes
into most of the next song.
1783
01:39:23,874 --> 01:39:25,375
And Billy, thank you again.
1784
01:39:25,459 --> 01:39:30,046
But it's the band rituals that just add
to the flavor of the film, the texture.
1785
01:39:30,130 --> 01:39:32,340
"Your mom kind of freaked me out."
1786
01:39:32,424 --> 01:39:34,926
Why do I freak people out, Cameron?
1787
01:39:36,094 --> 01:39:37,095
Really.
1788
01:39:38,263 --> 01:39:39,723
You're no bullshit.
1789
01:39:40,891 --> 01:39:47,105
People are used to the sugar-coated pill
of false courtesy.
1790
01:39:47,189 --> 01:39:50,317
Why crawl through the window
when the front door is wide open?
1791
01:39:52,652 --> 01:39:55,405
Well, let's get Cindy--
That's a good point!
1792
01:39:56,490 --> 01:40:00,994
Well, part of the experience of rock is,
it's gotta be a little clandestine, right?
1793
01:40:01,077 --> 01:40:02,913
You gotta own it yourself.
1794
01:40:04,122 --> 01:40:08,877
But you were a teacher, you are a teacher,
you've always been a teacher.
1795
01:40:08,960 --> 01:40:15,258
And I think you wondered if rock and drugs
and the Sodom and Gomorrah of it all
1796
01:40:15,926 --> 01:40:19,930
-was an ally or a foe of intelligence.
-That's true.
1797
01:40:20,013 --> 01:40:22,807
It was a battle for brain cells.
That's what you always used to say.
1798
01:40:22,891 --> 01:40:25,894
My students trusted me because they knew
I would tell them the truth.
1799
01:40:25,977 --> 01:40:27,771
-And you still do.
-Thank you.
1800
01:40:29,189 --> 01:40:31,066
This is "Love Comes and Goes,"
1801
01:40:31,149 --> 01:40:34,736
one of the songs that Nancy and I wrote
for the Stillwater band.
1802
01:40:34,819 --> 01:40:37,822
And a lot of people wanted more of that,
so that’s why we're putting that--
1803
01:40:37,906 --> 01:40:40,492
Another reason
we're putting the CD into this.
1804
01:40:42,661 --> 01:40:47,749
The one thing-- We also have the full
Stillwater concert, which is great.
1805
01:40:47,832 --> 01:40:52,045
The guys worked really hard.
And you just, you know, that's--
1806
01:40:52,128 --> 01:40:56,341
Ivan, that's one of the reasons
the four-hour movie became a shorter one.
1807
01:40:56,424 --> 01:41:02,722
Because, you know, the Stillwater concert
gets to stand alone.
1808
01:41:02,806 --> 01:41:04,599
And probably should, you know.
1809
01:41:06,351 --> 01:41:08,770
But sometimes, Cameron,
when I would come to pick you up
1810
01:41:08,853 --> 01:41:11,648
after a concert in the '70s,
this is what it was like.
1811
01:41:11,731 --> 01:41:13,275
-You really captured it.
-Thanks, Mom.
1812
01:41:13,358 --> 01:41:15,485
This is it as I remember.
1813
01:41:15,569 --> 01:41:17,529
We did this at the Hollywood Palladium.
1814
01:41:17,612 --> 01:41:19,864
I love this bow.
This bow says so much about musicians.
1815
01:41:21,241 --> 01:41:23,034
-Showing the band rituals.
-The band rituals.
1816
01:41:23,118 --> 01:41:24,578
Yes, that bind.
1817
01:41:24,661 --> 01:41:27,581
Jimmy Fallon's about to come in
and kick a little ass.
1818
01:41:28,582 --> 01:41:32,002
He does a good job.
I had no clue that was Jimmy Fallon.
1819
01:41:32,085 --> 01:41:33,712
Yeah, man.
1820
01:41:34,546 --> 01:41:37,549
I love the Rolling Stones line
in here, too.
1821
01:41:37,632 --> 01:41:39,175
Oh, yes.
1822
01:41:39,259 --> 01:41:41,469
Jimmy had a big speech and you'll see it
1823
01:41:41,553 --> 01:41:44,889
in all of its full Fallonian glory here
in a moment.
1824
01:41:44,973 --> 01:41:45,974
"Fallonian glory."
1825
01:41:46,057 --> 01:41:48,143
But one thing I just want to say--
1826
01:41:48,226 --> 01:41:50,729
We're talking so much about the movie
and the personal aspects
1827
01:41:50,812 --> 01:41:54,065
and I think it's fun
to just let it all out.
1828
01:41:54,149 --> 01:41:56,735
The movie was never meant to feel
like "the glory of us."
1829
01:41:56,818 --> 01:41:58,528
-Don't you feel that, Mom?
-Oh, yes.
1830
01:41:58,612 --> 01:42:01,531
We wanted to sort of blow kisses.
1831
01:42:01,615 --> 01:42:04,492
Well, the adjective
most frequently ascribed to you
1832
01:42:04,576 --> 01:42:09,122
when fans and people in stores talked
about is your films are so authentic.
1833
01:42:09,205 --> 01:42:11,791
And I say, "He really does his research."
1834
01:42:11,875 --> 01:42:13,418
Thanks, Mom.
1835
01:42:13,501 --> 01:42:15,712
And the thing is--
1836
01:42:15,795 --> 01:42:19,215
By the way, this scene is meant to capture
the exact moment when rock changes.
1837
01:42:19,299 --> 01:42:20,342
Oh, yes.
1838
01:42:20,425 --> 01:42:21,885
And as it's happening,
1839
01:42:21,968 --> 01:42:27,057
Penny is dancing alone
out on the empty arena floor, you know.
1840
01:42:27,140 --> 01:42:30,602
So it's all changing right here.
1841
01:42:31,519 --> 01:42:36,566
And visually, we did a little bit
of a tribute to Irving Azoff in this.
1842
01:42:36,650 --> 01:42:43,281
Irving, who was-- is a great friend,
one of the great all-time managers.
1843
01:42:43,365 --> 01:42:46,826
Irving rode the big ride, and still does,
1844
01:42:46,910 --> 01:42:49,746
of rock in the '70s, '80s, '90s.
1845
01:42:49,829 --> 01:42:51,915
Irving had that beard.
1846
01:42:53,583 --> 01:42:56,169
And Irving was also, and still is,
a big fan of music.
1847
01:42:57,754 --> 01:43:01,007
The movie really wants
to celebrate fandom,
1848
01:43:01,091 --> 01:43:03,301
but fans had money to spend,
1849
01:43:03,385 --> 01:43:05,553
and when money is flying ...
1850
01:43:06,888 --> 01:43:09,849
corporate mentality is not far behind.
1851
01:43:09,933 --> 01:43:14,854
And this is actually
just an attempt to catch that one moment.
1852
01:43:16,022 --> 01:43:18,358
But the one thing I was saying
a second ago is,
1853
01:43:18,441 --> 01:43:23,113
I never wanted the movie
to feel like "the glory of me."
1854
01:43:23,196 --> 01:43:27,992
It was actually hard to make it
because I have a problem with that genre,
1855
01:43:28,076 --> 01:43:30,120
the "glory of me" type movie
1856
01:43:30,203 --> 01:43:32,706
where there's, like, a golden haze
over everything.
1857
01:43:32,789 --> 01:43:37,419
And there's always an older woman
who deflowers the hero.
1858
01:43:37,502 --> 01:43:38,628
You know what I mean?
1859
01:43:38,712 --> 01:43:43,633
And the hero gets this ornate name
that he didn't really have in real life.
1860
01:43:43,717 --> 01:43:45,301
And it’s just...
1861
01:43:46,052 --> 01:43:51,182
It's mythmaking of the worst kind.
1862
01:43:51,766 --> 01:43:57,522
And I think we all worked pretty hard
to make the movie a personal story
1863
01:43:57,605 --> 01:44:01,484
that didn’t drown in its own reverence--
self-reverence.
1864
01:44:01,568 --> 01:44:05,530
-So, anyway, that was the attempt.
-We were watching The 400 Blows a lot.
1865
01:44:05,613 --> 01:44:07,782
We watched The 400 Blows a lot.
1866
01:44:07,866 --> 01:44:11,828
Because that's a movie, obviously, about
Truffaut's childhood, but you don't feel--
1867
01:44:11,911 --> 01:44:14,539
You feel that it was sort of
ripped out of his heart a little bit.
1868
01:44:14,622 --> 01:44:16,916
-It wasn't self-pitying.
-Right.
1869
01:44:17,917 --> 01:44:21,296
-This is a very important plot point.
-I know.
1870
01:44:22,464 --> 01:44:27,719
This shows the big shift in the film
and as it really occurred in the '70s.
1871
01:44:27,802 --> 01:44:29,596
-In '73.
-Yeah.
1872
01:44:30,805 --> 01:44:33,183
I think this scene was really effective
in the theaters too,
1873
01:44:33,266 --> 01:44:34,559
because, I think, by this point,
1874
01:44:34,642 --> 01:44:37,562
everyone was really attached
to the band unit, even with the manager.
1875
01:44:37,645 --> 01:44:39,731
And I felt like the energy in the crowd--
1876
01:44:39,814 --> 01:44:44,360
They felt like they were being betrayed,
I think, along with the manager.
1877
01:44:44,444 --> 01:44:47,906
That's a good point, Ivan.
Ivan's your fan base, Cameron.
1878
01:44:49,282 --> 01:44:51,075
That's Ivan Corona.
1879
01:44:53,328 --> 01:44:56,289
I love it that the band thinks
he's auditioning for them.
1880
01:44:57,624 --> 01:45:01,586
But he's auditioning for himself.
1881
01:45:06,591 --> 01:45:08,301
I think we always wondered
1882
01:45:08,384 --> 01:45:11,429
what Mick Jagger thought
of that line that Jimmy Fallon said ,
1883
01:45:11,513 --> 01:45:13,848
and I hope he understood
1884
01:45:13,932 --> 01:45:16,559
that it was a line
that was said at the time
1885
01:45:16,643 --> 01:45:22,565
and is also attributed to the fact that
there are so few survivors from that era.
1886
01:45:22,649 --> 01:45:25,235
And he is the dude.
1887
01:45:25,318 --> 01:45:27,654
We love the Stones.
1888
01:45:27,737 --> 01:45:32,283
And this is my favorite scene
in the movie.
1889
01:45:33,076 --> 01:45:36,538
-And really a reason to make the movie.
-One of mine, too.
1890
01:45:36,621 --> 01:45:39,207
You look forward to shooting
a scene like this the whole time.
1891
01:45:39,290 --> 01:45:41,626
A lot of times you peak early
and you finally get to it
1892
01:45:41,709 --> 01:45:44,003
and it never lives up to your dreams.
1893
01:45:44,087 --> 01:45:45,797
-But this one did.
-This one does.
1894
01:45:45,880 --> 01:45:50,176
We had Scott Martin there playing
"The Rain Song" and a bunch of other--
1895
01:45:50,260 --> 01:45:52,637
-"People's Parties."
-"People's Parties," Joni Mitchell.
1896
01:45:52,720 --> 01:45:56,266
Which was a song that we used
to audition people for Penny Lane,
1897
01:45:56,349 --> 01:46:00,937
though the role was always
meant for Kate Hudson.
1898
01:46:01,020 --> 01:46:04,274
-She was the Penny Lane of destiny.
-Yes.
1899
01:46:04,357 --> 01:46:08,486
Really, the one regret I have about the
theatrical version, and there's only one,
1900
01:46:08,570 --> 01:46:10,655
is that this scene didn't go on longer.
1901
01:46:10,738 --> 01:46:14,325
So we let it play as long as--
1902
01:46:14,409 --> 01:46:18,329
Well, actually, I could probably
still take it for about an hour or so.
1903
01:46:18,997 --> 01:46:22,458
But I just love this moment because
it's so much what the movie is about.
1904
01:46:22,542 --> 01:46:23,668
Yes.
1905
01:46:23,751 --> 01:46:27,255
The spirits that remain
after something magical has happened
1906
01:46:27,338 --> 01:46:31,009
and how you can go back to a place
where something amazing occurred
1907
01:46:31,092 --> 01:46:33,052
and the feeling's still in the air.
1908
01:46:33,136 --> 01:46:39,517
And she, of all the characters
in the movie, understood music best.
1909
01:46:39,601 --> 01:46:45,189
That scene shows the edge, the cynical,
how quickly people will sell out.
1910
01:46:45,273 --> 01:46:48,151
That shot's a tribute
to Annie Leibovitz's great shot
1911
01:46:48,234 --> 01:46:49,903
of the Stones on their 1972 tour.
1912
01:46:51,613 --> 01:46:56,242
And this is-- In our continuing quest
for authenticity on the movie,
1913
01:46:56,326 --> 01:46:58,244
I called up Glenn Frey of the Eagles
1914
01:46:58,328 --> 01:47:00,747
because I remembered
when I was writing about them in the day
1915
01:47:00,830 --> 01:47:03,583
that they had
these bizarre games of poker,
1916
01:47:03,666 --> 01:47:09,422
and I said, "Glenn, we're here filming,
and what was Eagle poker?"
1917
01:47:09,505 --> 01:47:16,095
And he said, "Eagle poker was when
we put the cards up on our forehead.
1918
01:47:16,179 --> 01:47:19,807
And it’s because, you know,
you could play that
1919
01:47:19,891 --> 01:47:23,937
in any emotional or intoxicated state.
1920
01:47:24,020 --> 01:47:27,106
Wherever you are, however you felt,
you could play that game."
1921
01:47:27,190 --> 01:47:29,859
I'm like, "Glenn, thank you.
We're filming it tomorrow."
1922
01:47:32,195 --> 01:47:34,822
-Thank you, Glenn, wherever you are.
-We love Glenn.
1923
01:47:34,906 --> 01:47:38,159
Glenn was an inspiration
for the character of Russell Hammond.
1924
01:47:38,242 --> 01:47:41,996
He certainly felt like a big brother
and I never had a brother.
1925
01:47:42,080 --> 01:47:46,000
When I met him back then,
long before the Eagles were ever huge,
1926
01:47:46,084 --> 01:47:49,712
he was a great tour guide early on.
1927
01:47:49,796 --> 01:47:53,633
In fact, his nickname
was Teen King back then,
1928
01:47:53,716 --> 01:47:58,638
because he was so connected
to what it was to be a teen fan.
1929
01:47:58,721 --> 01:48:00,264
He was from Detroit.
1930
01:48:00,348 --> 01:48:03,309
-And he's in Jerry Maguire.
-And he's in Jerry Maguire as an actor.
1931
01:48:03,393 --> 01:48:05,937
There's Red Dog. Zack Ward back again.
1932
01:48:09,440 --> 01:48:12,735
Peter Frampton wanted to act a little bit,
1933
01:48:12,819 --> 01:48:15,321
as well as be a technical consultant,
1934
01:48:15,405 --> 01:48:18,825
which was a dream come true
having him around all the time.
1935
01:48:18,908 --> 01:48:20,702
And I dig his acting.
1936
01:48:20,785 --> 01:48:24,539
He got a rough ride on Sgt. Pepper's.
1937
01:48:25,164 --> 01:48:29,794
I think he was trying to march
to a strange tune that wasn't his own.
1938
01:48:29,877 --> 01:48:32,964
But just so much fun
to work with him as an actor.
1939
01:48:34,215 --> 01:48:36,009
And also, he really helped
school Stillwater
1940
01:48:36,092 --> 01:48:38,511
in our rock school sessions
that went on every night.
1941
01:48:38,594 --> 01:48:40,930
And he taught Billy Crudup
how to play the guitar, didn't he?
1942
01:48:41,014 --> 01:48:42,015
He sure did.
1943
01:48:44,767 --> 01:48:48,396
This, of course, is more of
the subtle manipulation
1944
01:48:49,063 --> 01:48:51,315
between star and journalist.
1945
01:48:52,942 --> 01:48:55,403
And it’s sort of like the hidden story
1946
01:48:55,486 --> 01:48:57,864
that happens between every journalist
and their subject.
1947
01:48:57,947 --> 01:49:02,285
Whenever you read-- Every magazine now is
filled with star and celebrity profiles.
1948
01:49:02,368 --> 01:49:05,329
The truth is, in between the lines
of every one of those articles
1949
01:49:05,413 --> 01:49:07,290
is a story like this.
1950
01:49:07,790 --> 01:49:10,501
You know, what happens between
those two people?
1951
01:49:10,585 --> 01:49:13,046
What is the dance
between subject and interviewer?
1952
01:49:13,129 --> 01:49:15,339
-And it's always personal.
-Yes.
1953
01:49:15,423 --> 01:49:16,758
And it’s always intricate.
1954
01:49:17,341 --> 01:49:19,510
And this is a great betrayal scene.
1955
01:49:19,594 --> 01:49:24,807
Yeah. This is when Penny realizes
that’s she's expendable.
1956
01:49:24,891 --> 01:49:27,143
That her friends are not her friends.
1957
01:49:27,226 --> 01:49:29,645
We filmed this-- I love that cake.
1958
01:49:29,729 --> 01:49:35,610
We filmed this handheld to give it
kind of a Don't Look Back feel.
1959
01:49:36,611 --> 01:49:39,197
-And I love her betrayal.
-Yes.
1960
01:49:39,280 --> 01:49:41,074
Well, Shakespeare said,
1961
01:49:41,157 --> 01:49:44,869
"Betrayal, thy sting is sharper
than a serpent's tooth."
1962
01:49:44,952 --> 01:49:47,622
He made 16 references to betrayal,
1963
01:49:47,705 --> 01:49:51,959
and this scene portrays the betrayal
and the heartbreak of Penny.
1964
01:49:52,043 --> 01:49:53,711
This one scene.
1965
01:49:53,795 --> 01:49:56,881
One of the things that-- Well said, Ma.
1966
01:49:56,964 --> 01:49:59,634
One of the things I wanted to do
was thank all the actors
1967
01:49:59,717 --> 01:50:01,761
that came up to audition
for parts in this movie,
1968
01:50:01,844 --> 01:50:02,929
'cause there were many.
1969
01:50:03,012 --> 01:50:06,432
And Gail Levin knows
we spent months casting it.
1970
01:50:07,558 --> 01:50:11,270
A lot of attempts were made
at the character of Penny Lane,
1971
01:50:11,354 --> 01:50:13,356
and I worked a lot
with a lot of actresses.
1972
01:50:13,439 --> 01:50:16,484
Kate was already cast
as the sister, Anita,
1973
01:50:16,567 --> 01:50:19,737
and ultimately would end up
getting the part of Penny Lane...
1974
01:50:20,738 --> 01:50:23,199
for a very simple reason,
1975
01:50:23,282 --> 01:50:27,453
and that was loyalty to the movie.
1976
01:50:27,537 --> 01:50:31,958
A lot of people were trying to get her
to blow us off for bigger starring roles,
1977
01:50:32,041 --> 01:50:34,085
and she hung in for a very small part.
1978
01:50:34,168 --> 01:50:38,464
And she was loyal in a way
that reminded me of the girls of that era.
1979
01:50:38,548 --> 01:50:42,009
There was a lack of shameless,
brutal ambition.
1980
01:50:42,969 --> 01:50:45,221
She wanted to be in our movie,
and that was that.
1981
01:50:45,888 --> 01:50:47,849
She wanted to be with the band.
1982
01:50:48,432 --> 01:50:52,228
She was like Penny Lane,
and she became the character.
1983
01:50:52,311 --> 01:50:54,355
And I can't think of
anyone else playing it.
1984
01:50:56,399 --> 01:50:57,900
So, thank you, Kate.
1985
01:50:57,984 --> 01:51:00,987
-We invited her to come by here today.
-Yeah.
1986
01:51:01,070 --> 01:51:02,905
-Where is she?
-I have no idea.
1987
01:51:03,781 --> 01:51:06,075
Kate, come back. We miss you.
1988
01:51:07,785 --> 01:51:09,829
She, like so many people in the movie,
1989
01:51:09,912 --> 01:51:14,333
ended up living out versions
of their characters' lives.
1990
01:51:15,001 --> 01:51:16,043
Patrick--
1991
01:51:16,752 --> 01:51:18,963
Kate met Chris Robinson
of the Black Crowes.
1992
01:51:19,046 --> 01:51:20,298
They got married.
1993
01:51:21,674 --> 01:51:23,843
-She went on tour.
-She went on tour.
1994
01:51:24,343 --> 01:51:26,137
Penny Lane is still on tour.
1995
01:51:26,888 --> 01:51:31,184
And Patrick grew up, I think,
in the way that William Miller grows up
1996
01:51:31,267 --> 01:51:35,563
in the telling of the story
and in the making of the movie.
1997
01:51:37,148 --> 01:51:39,525
We saw him recently,
and his voice was deeper.
1998
01:51:40,443 --> 01:51:43,863
Didn't he have 12 girls hanging on to him,
or did I just imagine that?
1999
01:51:43,946 --> 01:51:45,615
-He had an entourage.
-No, no. He--
2000
01:51:49,911 --> 01:51:55,208
We also owe a lot to Jan and Bruce Fugit,
Patrick's parents,
2001
01:51:55,291 --> 01:52:00,004
that supported him going off
on the road with us, you know.
2002
01:52:00,087 --> 01:52:03,007
I felt a kinship to them, believe me.
2003
01:52:06,177 --> 01:52:09,430
This was a tough scene to get right.
I love this shot.
2004
01:52:09,513 --> 01:52:12,475
Chris Haarhoff is just
a brilliant Steadicam operator.
2005
01:52:12,558 --> 01:52:15,311
Brilliant eye. Just a wonderful guy.
2006
01:52:15,394 --> 01:52:17,647
He's worked with Spielberg
and a bunch of other people.
2007
01:52:17,730 --> 01:52:19,023
The light off of her hair.
2008
01:52:19,106 --> 01:52:21,692
-And there's his dog Reg.
-There's his dog Reg.
2009
01:52:22,443 --> 01:52:26,989
And Chris really nailed
so much of this stuff.
2010
01:52:27,990 --> 01:52:31,494
Originally, I wanted this to be
a very long Steadicam shot
2011
01:52:31,577 --> 01:52:36,290
that travelled through the trees,
2012
01:52:36,374 --> 01:52:40,878
and they’re walking because
they just had basic anxiety.
2013
01:52:41,837 --> 01:52:44,632
But we got to it late in the day,
and the light was gonna go down,
2014
01:52:44,715 --> 01:52:49,595
and we weren't gonna be able to match
and all those boring technical reasons.
2015
01:52:49,679 --> 01:52:53,140
We had to stop and do it
under this large tree.
2016
01:52:53,224 --> 01:52:55,184
-But it worked.
-It did work.
2017
01:52:55,268 --> 01:52:58,646
-It's his big dramatic scene.
-I wasn't sure we had it, frankly.
2018
01:52:58,729 --> 01:53:02,775
And I was disappointed.
2019
01:53:02,858 --> 01:53:04,235
In fact, I was distraught.
2020
01:53:04,318 --> 01:53:08,364
I thought that I didn't film it
the way I wanted to film it.
2021
01:53:10,032 --> 01:53:13,202
I didn't think the actors were
as connected emotionally
2022
01:53:13,286 --> 01:53:14,745
as I wanted them to be.
2023
01:53:14,829 --> 01:53:16,789
I had worked on the scene
so much in rehearsals
2024
01:53:16,872 --> 01:53:19,792
that it was, like, on the day,
I felt we'd peaked.
2025
01:53:20,960 --> 01:53:23,337
And I think Scott--
2026
01:53:23,879 --> 01:53:26,841
I probably cried on your shoulder
a little bit.
2027
01:53:26,924 --> 01:53:29,427
It was one of the few bad days.
2028
01:53:29,510 --> 01:53:31,887
It was a bad day. And--
2029
01:53:31,971 --> 01:53:34,682
But look what you produced.
This wonderful scene.
2030
01:53:34,765 --> 01:53:38,269
Here's the amazing thing. I thought--
2031
01:53:39,103 --> 01:53:42,440
I thought we were gonna go back
and have to reshoot this.
2032
01:53:42,523 --> 01:53:47,445
And I even called the studio and said,
"We shot a ton of stuff today,
2033
01:53:47,528 --> 01:53:50,323
including this dramatic, climactic scene,
2034
01:53:50,406 --> 01:53:52,283
but we're gonna have to
go back and get it."
2035
01:53:53,993 --> 01:53:58,247
A little sidebar here--
this is sort of a personal thing.
2036
01:53:58,331 --> 01:54:01,792
I feel that I'm dark and mysterious.
Nobody agrees with me.
2037
01:54:02,460 --> 01:54:05,713
But, you know, that'll be
a lifelong crusade, I'm sure.
2038
01:54:05,796 --> 01:54:06,797
Anyway...
2039
01:54:08,883 --> 01:54:11,802
we're back in the editing room,
and I'm working on the scene.
2040
01:54:12,553 --> 01:54:16,349
And I sort of vaguely remember
this great moment happening
2041
01:54:16,432 --> 01:54:18,768
after Kate realizes the betrayal.
2042
01:54:18,851 --> 01:54:20,561
-Oh, this scene.
-And we were watching the dailies.
2043
01:54:20,644 --> 01:54:23,981
We were watching in the room
with Saar Klein and Joe Hutshing,
2044
01:54:24,065 --> 01:54:25,649
and I saw this take.
2045
01:54:26,525 --> 01:54:30,946
Let's just let it stand, Cameron,
without comment.
2046
01:54:31,030 --> 01:54:32,615
It's just so pure.
2047
01:54:40,289 --> 01:54:42,041
What kind of beer?
2048
01:54:42,124 --> 01:54:43,292
Wow.
2049
01:54:45,920 --> 01:54:48,464
About a year later,
I showed this movie to Billy Wilder,
2050
01:54:48,547 --> 01:54:52,635
and I was very nervous about doing that
because he's a real hero.
2051
01:54:52,968 --> 01:54:54,178
Look at her face.
2052
01:54:54,261 --> 01:54:57,223
And it was at that scene, at that moment,
2053
01:54:57,306 --> 01:55:02,728
when Billy Wilder made a rare
audible comment that resembled a laugh,
2054
01:55:02,812 --> 01:55:05,106
and he basically made this sound.
2055
01:55:07,691 --> 01:55:12,738
-Which was music of the best kind.
-What an accolade.
2056
01:55:13,280 --> 01:55:15,449
But we had that scene,
2057
01:55:15,533 --> 01:55:18,536
and all because of that take, I think.
2058
01:55:18,619 --> 01:55:20,996
And Patrick is very raw and emotional.
2059
01:55:21,997 --> 01:55:24,583
Just a directing lesson there.
2060
01:55:24,667 --> 01:55:29,422
Cameron named one of his twin sons Billy,
after Billy Wilder.
2061
01:55:31,465 --> 01:55:33,467
And William Miller.
2062
01:55:34,927 --> 01:55:36,846
When he was born,
I thought he was a William.
2063
01:55:36,929 --> 01:55:38,722
Now I realize he's a Billy.
2064
01:55:38,806 --> 01:55:40,182
Definitely a Billy.
2065
01:55:41,434 --> 01:55:44,437
This is the Gramercy Park,
2066
01:55:44,520 --> 01:55:48,649
where many a fledgling band
coming into New York stayed.
2067
01:55:52,528 --> 01:55:55,406
You know, it's funny.
Every department got into all the details.
2068
01:55:55,489 --> 01:55:57,741
We have all the Stillwater albums
on vinyl,
2069
01:55:57,825 --> 01:56:01,078
and that's the Farrington Road album
that a fan gives him to sign.
2070
01:56:02,329 --> 01:56:07,293
The gatefold and matching
Derek and the Dominos.
2071
01:56:07,376 --> 01:56:10,921
They're going to have a hard time
finding a gaffe in this film.
2072
01:56:12,089 --> 01:56:16,218
Cameron is the gaffe preventer.
2073
01:56:18,846 --> 01:56:21,807
Liz Stauber playing the girlfriend
from back home is great.
2074
01:56:21,891 --> 01:56:24,185
I always missed this
in the finished version,
2075
01:56:24,268 --> 01:56:26,979
although I think it plays better
with that, where the bag breaks.
2076
01:56:28,314 --> 01:56:33,903
That's based on the fact that,
when I was on the road at that age,
2077
01:56:33,986 --> 01:56:37,615
I kept stealing the phone books,
2078
01:56:37,698 --> 01:56:40,284
because I thought,
"I may never be back in this city.
2079
01:56:40,367 --> 01:56:44,330
I want to have a souvenir from Phoenix."
2080
01:56:45,372 --> 01:56:48,209
And I used to go through the phone books
and look at all the names,
2081
01:56:48,292 --> 01:56:52,379
and I'd go, "All these people!
And they live in Phoenix!
2082
01:56:52,463 --> 01:56:56,842
I'm never gonna meet these people.
I have to take a piece of them with me."
2083
01:56:56,926 --> 01:56:59,261
-Oh, Cameron.
-And my bag broke one day.
2084
01:56:59,345 --> 01:57:02,014
And it was always
because of those phone books.
2085
01:57:03,015 --> 01:57:06,143
And, of course, ashtrays and pens
and everything else they used to--
2086
01:57:06,227 --> 01:57:08,229
I know they ended up in your room.
2087
01:57:08,312 --> 01:57:10,314
I think I still have a lot of them.
2088
01:57:13,025 --> 01:57:17,696
Eion Bailey playing Jann Wenner there.
2089
01:57:17,780 --> 01:57:19,990
Worked with Jann to get the mannerisms
2090
01:57:20,074 --> 01:57:22,993
and the perfect
smoking mannerisms of Jann.
2091
01:57:23,077 --> 01:57:25,371
Jann, thank you
for letting us use Rolling Stone.
2092
01:57:26,080 --> 01:57:30,417
And thank you for publishing
those articles of mine.
2093
01:57:30,501 --> 01:57:31,502
Yeah.
2094
01:57:32,086 --> 01:57:34,421
And Rainn Wilson in the background there
2095
01:57:34,505 --> 01:57:37,424
is playing a character
based on David Felton,
2096
01:57:37,508 --> 01:57:42,179
who was one of the grand journalistic
voices of Rolling Stone at the time.
2097
01:57:42,263 --> 01:57:45,391
-Who's now at MTV, right?
-Now he's working at MTV.
2098
01:57:45,474 --> 01:57:46,850
"Peas" on the sign.
2099
01:57:46,934 --> 01:57:48,519
Max's Kansas City.
2100
01:57:48,602 --> 01:57:51,480
Clay Griffith-- There's Elliot Roberts,
Neil Young's manager.
2101
01:57:52,481 --> 01:57:55,276
And a thrilling actor, you gotta say.
2102
01:57:56,360 --> 01:57:59,488
Hey, Elliot.
See? I did put you in the movie.
2103
01:58:01,282 --> 01:58:06,620
Max's Kansas City was pretty faithfully
brought back to life by Clay Griffith,
2104
01:58:06,704 --> 01:58:09,582
and we wanted to really capture
what Max's was.
2105
01:58:09,665 --> 01:58:13,919
Max's is a place that you went
your first minute in New York City,
2106
01:58:14,003 --> 01:58:16,839
and somebody took me there
the first night I ever came to New York.
2107
01:58:16,922 --> 01:58:20,009
Lou Reed was sitting in the back,
and I sort of--
2108
01:58:20,676 --> 01:58:22,344
I just went up to Lou Reed--
somebody introduced me--
2109
01:58:22,428 --> 01:58:26,098
And I said, "Hi, Lou!
God, it's great to meet you!
2110
01:58:26,181 --> 01:58:29,935
You know, I have an article that's been
published on the cover of Rolling Stone.
2111
01:58:30,019 --> 01:58:32,104
Have you seen the new issue
with Jackson Browne on the cover?
2112
01:58:32,187 --> 01:58:33,647
That's my article."
2113
01:58:33,731 --> 01:58:37,735
And he kind of looked at me
and swatted me away like a fly,
2114
01:58:37,818 --> 01:58:43,449
and I was walking away, going,
"Hey, man! Lou Reed! All right!
2115
01:58:43,532 --> 01:58:45,576
Lou Reed! Lou Reed!"
2116
01:58:45,659 --> 01:58:49,955
And, you know, it was part of the lore
2117
01:58:50,039 --> 01:58:52,666
that Max’s Kansas City
was always gonna offer you
2118
01:58:52,750 --> 01:58:56,712
some kind of close encounter
with a legend.
2119
01:58:58,130 --> 01:58:59,798
There were these places across the coast.
2120
01:58:59,882 --> 01:59:02,259
There'd be the Hyatt House lobby.
2121
01:59:02,343 --> 01:59:05,137
There'd be Swingos, Max's.
2122
01:59:05,220 --> 01:59:08,599
These little hotbeds where
you'd see the same people.
2123
01:59:08,682 --> 01:59:12,269
By the way, that's an actress
playing Lisa Robinson,
2124
01:59:12,353 --> 01:59:15,689
the journalist there talking to
Mark Kozelek against the wall.
2125
01:59:16,649 --> 01:59:19,485
Lisa was the other journalist who used to
go on the road with Led Zeppelin,
2126
01:59:19,568 --> 01:59:21,528
and we would always do tours together.
2127
01:59:23,155 --> 01:59:24,323
So, hey, Lisa.
2128
01:59:24,406 --> 01:59:28,577
The whole movie is filled, really, with
little hellos and love notes to people.
2129
01:59:28,661 --> 01:59:31,080
I like that glam is a factor at Max's.
2130
01:59:31,163 --> 01:59:32,498
This is the glam rock--
2131
01:59:32,581 --> 01:59:35,542
Because glam is now happening.
2132
01:59:35,626 --> 01:59:39,630
Aladdin Sane has come out.
Ziggy Stardust has taken a foothold.
2133
01:59:40,506 --> 01:59:44,134
Lou, David Bowie, Iggy.
2134
01:59:44,218 --> 01:59:48,305
It's all kind of starting to crowd out
the meat-and-potatoes rock.
2135
01:59:48,389 --> 01:59:50,307
-Bolan.
-Bolan.
2136
01:59:50,933 --> 01:59:53,227
And Stillwater, being from the Midwest,
2137
01:59:54,061 --> 01:59:59,983
doesn't know whether to embrace
or fear that stuff, which I really like.
2138
02:00:00,734 --> 02:00:04,863
Jason, of course, playing the lead singer
that secretly dreads the fact
2139
02:00:04,947 --> 02:00:07,741
that he won’t be on the cover
of Rolling Stone, that it'll be Russell.
2140
02:00:07,825 --> 02:00:11,662
Watch Kate Hudson in this scene.
She's just so impressive.
2141
02:00:11,745 --> 02:00:14,039
-Yeah.
-Look at that.
2142
02:00:14,123 --> 02:00:18,836
I love the way that the wife's character
is playing such a-- has it so over her.
2143
02:00:18,919 --> 02:00:23,924
This relationship between them
is really tense. I like it, it's--
2144
02:00:25,259 --> 02:00:30,264
But watch Kate. It's just wonderful,
the pain in her eyes.
2145
02:00:31,557 --> 02:00:34,059
And Noah knowing that he's gotta
sort out the problem.
2146
02:00:34,143 --> 02:00:35,144
Terrible.
2147
02:00:35,227 --> 02:00:40,691
We were playing "Mona Lisas
and Mad Hatters" during the film shoot,
2148
02:00:40,774 --> 02:00:44,361
so Kate’s actually acting to that song.
2149
02:00:45,696 --> 02:00:47,030
It's one of the big things--
2150
02:00:47,114 --> 02:00:49,742
Scott and I have been doing this
since Jerry Maguire.
2151
02:00:49,825 --> 02:00:55,497
We sort of have an emotional DJ session
while we're filming.
2152
02:00:55,581 --> 02:00:59,835
And it does shape what we film,
particularly on this movie.
2153
02:00:59,918 --> 02:01:05,048
Yeah. The actors really seem to enjoy it.
I think it helps them.
2154
02:01:07,217 --> 02:01:09,762
I also love that you don't hear
what's being said.
2155
02:01:09,845 --> 02:01:11,263
Yes. Oh, yes.
2156
02:01:12,556 --> 02:01:14,683
Kate kicked ass.
2157
02:01:14,767 --> 02:01:18,020
I think this is incredible film-making,
this whole scene.
2158
02:01:18,103 --> 02:01:20,397
Look at the exchange of the eyes.
It's all eyes.
2159
02:01:20,481 --> 02:01:22,441
-The eyebrow.
-Eyes, eyes, eyes.
2160
02:01:22,524 --> 02:01:24,818
Look at the way he's looking at--
2161
02:01:24,902 --> 02:01:26,528
Hopefully, that's the moment
where you start to realize
2162
02:01:26,612 --> 02:01:28,864
there's something going on between ...
2163
02:01:28,947 --> 02:01:31,950
-But you gotta look fast to catch that.
-... Leslie and Jeff Bebe.
2164
02:01:32,034 --> 02:01:34,828
Was the exchange between
Kate Hudson and him scripted
2165
02:01:34,912 --> 02:01:36,163
and you just took the sound out,
2166
02:01:36,246 --> 02:01:38,749
or was it never intended to be known
what he said to her?
2167
02:01:39,291 --> 02:01:41,543
It was always intended
to be glimpsed from a distance.
2168
02:01:41,627 --> 02:01:42,711
Okay.
2169
02:01:42,795 --> 02:01:45,422
And we just sort of improv-ed some stuff.
2170
02:01:45,506 --> 02:01:46,799
Here's Jann Wenner.
2171
02:01:46,882 --> 02:01:48,675
Jann used to write to me and say,
2172
02:01:48,759 --> 02:01:51,011
"Don't worry, Mom.
I'm taking care of your boy."
2173
02:01:51,094 --> 02:01:52,471
Thank you, Jann.
2174
02:01:52,554 --> 02:01:56,517
You did take care of my boy,
except for that one scene when he was 16.
2175
02:01:58,101 --> 02:01:59,561
Jann came to the set that day,
2176
02:01:59,645 --> 02:02:02,064
and we were outfitting him
for the scene and everything,
2177
02:02:02,397 --> 02:02:05,901
and I said, "Jann, do you want
to shave the beard,
2178
02:02:05,984 --> 02:02:09,404
you know, so that you're period-accurate?"
2179
02:02:09,488 --> 02:02:11,448
And he said, "No."
2180
02:02:14,159 --> 02:02:17,913
"It's 1973, and that is my beard."
And I'm, like, "Okay. Action."
2181
02:02:19,832 --> 02:02:25,045
He said that he ran into Bill Clinton
at some point after the movie came out,
2182
02:02:25,128 --> 02:02:27,673
and Bill Clinton said to him,
2183
02:02:27,756 --> 02:02:30,843
"Hey, I enjoyed that movie
where you were in the back of the taxi."
2184
02:02:33,136 --> 02:02:37,057
So, it's official. It is a movie
about a guy in the back of a taxi.
2185
02:02:37,140 --> 02:02:40,352
And, you know,
some other scenes surrounding it.
2186
02:02:40,435 --> 02:02:43,689
-I love that move.
-With period-inappropriate beard.
2187
02:02:44,565 --> 02:02:45,566
Right.
2188
02:02:46,191 --> 02:02:48,944
But he is reading
a period-appropriate Hew York Times.
2189
02:02:49,027 --> 02:02:53,240
Cameron interviewed our family doctor
for this scene,
2190
02:02:53,323 --> 02:02:55,742
so this scene is very accurate.
2191
02:02:55,826 --> 02:02:57,494
We went to his office,
2192
02:02:57,578 --> 02:02:59,913
and Cameron sat down
and took copious notes.
2193
02:03:00,497 --> 02:03:02,583
So, Dr. Ray, thank you.
2194
02:03:03,667 --> 02:03:07,170
That is the biggest Quaalude bottle
in the history of man.
2195
02:03:10,674 --> 02:03:12,301
But I remember--
2196
02:03:12,384 --> 02:03:13,927
I don't know what ever happened
to Quaaludes,
2197
02:03:14,011 --> 02:03:15,387
but I remember, even at the time,
2198
02:03:15,470 --> 02:03:18,599
those bottles were used
as decorative items.
2199
02:03:19,808 --> 02:03:21,727
-I love these boots.
-Oh, those boots.
2200
02:03:21,810 --> 02:03:23,729
Oh, Cameron, who discovered--
Is that Betsy?
2201
02:03:23,812 --> 02:03:25,480
-That's Betsy.
-Oh, Betsy, thank you.
2202
02:03:25,564 --> 02:03:29,526
And the kind of Japanese-style dress,
which is great.
2203
02:03:29,610 --> 02:03:33,655
I , of course, am responsible
for William Miller's wardrobe.
2204
02:03:35,032 --> 02:03:39,995
Cameron, you were grunge
before the Seattle scene, believe me.
2205
02:03:40,078 --> 02:03:42,372
-It's sad but true.
-You still do that.
2206
02:03:45,083 --> 02:03:47,794
-This band's great.
-What was the name of this band?
2207
02:03:47,878 --> 02:03:51,089
I don't-- They were from
a high school in San Diego.
2208
02:03:51,173 --> 02:03:52,799
-Yeah, they were wonderful .
-Mary.
2209
02:03:52,883 --> 02:03:54,343
Mary was the woman there.
2210
02:03:54,426 --> 02:03:56,094
-This was filmed-- There I am.
-There's Alice.
2211
02:03:56,178 --> 02:03:57,346
Pink hat.
2212
02:03:57,429 --> 02:03:59,890
My journalism teacher, Mr. Wilson,
is also on that stage.
2213
02:03:59,973 --> 02:04:01,224
That's Pedro.
2214
02:04:02,517 --> 02:04:05,354
Okay. This scene is...
2215
02:04:06,355 --> 02:04:09,483
as a few people have noticed,
is a tribute to The Apartment.
2216
02:04:09,566 --> 02:04:11,902
Joe Hutshing, our editor, would be sad
2217
02:04:11,985 --> 02:04:14,613
if I didn't notice that this extra
in the background
2218
02:04:14,696 --> 02:04:18,700
really needs to learn to blend
into a scene better.
2219
02:04:18,784 --> 02:04:21,453
I'm sorry. I hate to hurt your feelings.
2220
02:04:21,536 --> 02:04:26,792
But Joe, really, who's a very calm,
Zen guy most of the time,
2221
02:04:27,584 --> 02:04:30,879
is still furious about the performance
of that extra.
2222
02:04:30,963 --> 02:04:34,925
"What is she trying to do?
Upstage Frances McDormand?"
2223
02:04:35,008 --> 02:04:37,928
"So, Joe, should we go to San Diego
and confront the extra?"
2224
02:04:38,011 --> 02:04:40,514
He said, "Yeah!"
2225
02:04:40,597 --> 02:04:43,475
Joe, I was in labor 17 hours. You owe me.
2226
02:04:43,558 --> 02:04:47,312
No, it's not you. We're talking about
the girl right over Frances' shoulder.
2227
02:04:47,396 --> 02:04:48,647
I thought you were talking about me.
2228
02:04:48,730 --> 02:04:51,274
-She's sort of--
-Yeah, she stole the scene.
2229
02:04:51,358 --> 02:04:54,444
There's Daniel Wilson, second from the end
on the left, as you're watching this--
2230
02:04:54,528 --> 02:04:55,779
My old journalism teacher.
2231
02:04:55,862 --> 02:04:58,365
Who remembered an argument we had
that I had forgotten.
2232
02:04:58,448 --> 02:05:00,951
So we reconciled
and I didn't really know why.
2233
02:05:01,827 --> 02:05:05,122
But there's that extra.
She's just, like, "Yes!"
2234
02:05:05,205 --> 02:05:06,248
Yeah. "Ah, yeah."
2235
02:05:06,331 --> 02:05:09,918
So, don't want to point any fingers.
I know, you know-- Whatever.
2236
02:05:10,002 --> 02:05:11,586
I think she was friends
with one of the ADs or something,
2237
02:05:11,670 --> 02:05:14,715
because I kept saying,
"Please move that extra out of the way."
2238
02:05:14,798 --> 02:05:17,050
But by the time we were filming,
she was back.
2239
02:05:20,637 --> 02:05:23,598
Whatever. Just a little comment
for any future extra.
2240
02:05:23,682 --> 02:05:25,100
Blend, baby. Please.
2241
02:05:25,183 --> 02:05:26,935
-Blend.
-Please.
2242
02:05:27,436 --> 02:05:28,520
No offense, though.
2243
02:05:29,813 --> 02:05:31,815
We'll give you another chance sometime.
2244
02:05:32,691 --> 02:05:34,943
Oh, God, why am I so nervous?
2245
02:05:35,527 --> 02:05:39,072
I don't know if I'd be able to get
Joe Hutshing to edit the-- No.
2246
02:05:39,156 --> 02:05:42,993
Kate Hudson deserved the Academy Award ...
2247
02:05:44,995 --> 02:05:47,539
-That's very kind of you to say.
-.. .for her performance in this film.
2248
02:05:48,331 --> 02:05:49,583
She was--
2249
02:05:50,459 --> 02:05:52,502
What a memorable performance.
2250
02:05:52,586 --> 02:05:55,005
I love the noise she makes after the kiss.
2251
02:05:55,756 --> 02:05:57,257
And then she falls.
2252
02:05:57,340 --> 02:05:58,383
Who do we got here?
2253
02:05:58,467 --> 02:06:00,093
-What's her name?
-Emily.
2254
02:06:00,177 --> 02:06:01,803
Okay, sweetheart, sit up.
2255
02:06:01,887 --> 02:06:05,849
We filmed a little bit extra
with the actor here playing the doctor,
2256
02:06:05,932 --> 02:06:07,309
a wonderful actor from New York
2257
02:06:07,392 --> 02:06:09,561
who moved his schedule around
to come in and do this.
2258
02:06:09,644 --> 02:06:11,521
-I'm so glad he did.
-And the nurse, too.
2259
02:06:11,605 --> 02:06:13,648
They just did a great job
making this real.
2260
02:06:13,732 --> 02:06:14,775
They did.
2261
02:06:14,858 --> 02:06:19,154
-Emily, wake up.
- Got the tubes. Here we go.
2262
02:06:19,237 --> 02:06:21,865
But it is a tribute to Fran Kubelik
in The Apartment.
2263
02:06:21,948 --> 02:06:24,076
And I always loved the fact--
2264
02:06:24,159 --> 02:06:26,578
And I saw situations like this,
2265
02:06:26,661 --> 02:06:29,081
where a girl that I was
a little bit infatuated with,
2266
02:06:29,164 --> 02:06:31,708
who was infatuated with somebody
I was writing about,
2267
02:06:31,792 --> 02:06:35,003
was mistreated or...
2268
02:06:36,213 --> 02:06:38,215
was suffering for some reason or another.
2269
02:06:38,298 --> 02:06:41,593
And I just-- Sometimes,
if you're the person that's there,
2270
02:06:41,676 --> 02:06:43,428
even though they're suffering
over somebody else,
2271
02:06:43,512 --> 02:06:46,807
if they share the suffering with you,
that brings you closer together.
2272
02:06:46,890 --> 02:06:48,475
-The bonding.
-Yeah, and that was--
2273
02:06:48,558 --> 02:06:50,811
-Billy caught that really well.. .
-The brotherhood of suffering.
2274
02:06:50,894 --> 02:06:54,147
...in The Apartment,
where Jack Lemmon takes that punch
2275
02:06:54,231 --> 02:06:56,191
from Fran Kubelik's brother,
2276
02:06:56,274 --> 02:07:00,070
who thinks that he's responsible
for an abortion or something.
2277
02:07:00,153 --> 02:07:02,447
And Jack Lemmon is just happy
to take that punch,
2278
02:07:02,531 --> 02:07:06,284
because it meant he mattered enough
to be a threat.
2279
02:07:06,368 --> 02:07:08,829
-So cool.
-Even wrongly.
2280
02:07:08,912 --> 02:07:13,208
So, Patrick himself was exhausted
at this point in the shoot,
2281
02:07:13,291 --> 02:07:16,837
and I said to him while we were filming,
2282
02:07:16,920 --> 02:07:19,381
"Patrick, we're all gonna be
out of your life soon,
2283
02:07:19,464 --> 02:07:21,466
and we're not really your friends."
2284
02:07:22,509 --> 02:07:25,470
And the poor guy nearly cried.
2285
02:07:25,554 --> 02:07:29,266
And when I said, "Cut,"
I told him that was a cheap ploy
2286
02:07:29,349 --> 02:07:31,977
that I learned about from other directors.
2287
02:07:33,145 --> 02:07:34,479
It wasn't really true.
2288
02:07:35,397 --> 02:07:37,899
And he was a bit shell-shocked.
2289
02:07:38,567 --> 02:07:44,614
And I think, you know, it was a gift
that he took the ride personally
2290
02:07:44,698 --> 02:07:47,242
and took it so deeply to heart.
2291
02:07:47,325 --> 02:07:49,327
And he was very exhausted that day.
2292
02:07:49,411 --> 02:07:51,705
This is the longer version
of the scene in Central Park.
2293
02:07:51,788 --> 02:07:55,834
I always wanted to film in Central Park
by this lake.
2294
02:07:55,917 --> 02:07:59,588
The Catcher in the Rye, J.D. Salinger lake
2295
02:07:59,671 --> 02:08:01,131
where the ducks go.
2296
02:08:02,090 --> 02:08:03,508
And so we filmed there.
2297
02:08:03,592 --> 02:08:08,388
This was the last day.
This was the last shot that we filmed.
2298
02:08:08,471 --> 02:08:12,267
And Kate's parents-- Kurt Russell
and Goldie Hawn-- were on the set,
2299
02:08:12,350 --> 02:08:15,020
and there were people from--
2300
02:08:15,103 --> 02:08:17,439
You know, just passers-by and tourists
standing around.
2301
02:08:17,522 --> 02:08:19,191
-Paparazzi .
-Paparazzi.
2302
02:08:19,274 --> 02:08:22,736
And it was really emotional
because this speech
2303
02:08:22,819 --> 02:08:25,864
actually is based a little bit
on Bebe Buell
2304
02:08:25,947 --> 02:08:31,953
and something Bebe Buell said about how
she got brought into the world of rock.
2305
02:08:32,037 --> 02:08:35,707
And I just love the idea
that it was a Coke with lemon
2306
02:08:35,790 --> 02:08:38,793
that was given to Penny Lane
backstage by the Rolling Stones,
2307
02:08:38,877 --> 02:08:40,545
and she never went home.
2308
02:08:40,629 --> 02:08:42,255
She never went home.
2309
02:08:42,339 --> 02:08:44,591
This is a longer version
of the airplane scene.
2310
02:08:44,674 --> 02:08:47,969
So accurate that it's the day after
she almost OD'd
2311
02:08:48,053 --> 02:08:49,596
and she's wearing very little makeup,
2312
02:08:49,679 --> 02:08:55,185
and her eyes show the health damage
the next day.
2313
02:08:55,268 --> 02:08:57,103
-It was so accurate.
-Yeah.
2314
02:08:57,187 --> 02:08:59,522
Lady Goodman is actually a real name.
2315
02:08:59,606 --> 02:09:02,484
It was a friend
of my friend Debbie Gold's.
2316
02:09:02,567 --> 02:09:04,861
Lady Goodman lives in Philadelphia.
She lent me her name.
2317
02:09:04,945 --> 02:09:06,488
Hey, Lady!
2318
02:09:06,571 --> 02:09:07,822
Thanks, Lady.
2319
02:09:07,906 --> 02:09:09,491
I love that joke.
2320
02:09:09,574 --> 02:09:12,369
I never quite knew if it worked that well,
2321
02:09:12,452 --> 02:09:15,956
but I love having it back in.
2322
02:09:18,541 --> 02:09:21,336
We didn't get enough time
to shoot the actual stewardess,
2323
02:09:21,419 --> 02:09:23,922
who was a nice actress and did a good job.
2324
02:09:24,005 --> 02:09:26,383
We only had enough time to shoot Kate.
2325
02:09:30,303 --> 02:09:31,846
And this is the scene.
2326
02:09:31,930 --> 02:09:34,891
We got use of a plane through that window,
2327
02:09:34,975 --> 02:09:37,394
and we built, thanks to the crew,
2328
02:09:38,603 --> 02:09:43,942
an ingenious building job.
2329
02:09:44,025 --> 02:09:47,737
We built a little claw that went out.
2330
02:09:47,821 --> 02:09:50,115
And we were able to get some distance
2331
02:09:50,198 --> 02:09:52,575
to film Patrick
running alongside this plane.
2332
02:09:52,659 --> 02:09:56,538
And this was one of the other shots
that made me want to make the movie,
2333
02:09:56,621 --> 02:09:59,207
the fact that he's gonna run
through her fingers.
2334
02:09:59,291 --> 02:10:00,750
Yeah.
2335
02:10:00,834 --> 02:10:05,255
And I just love the way
Patrick is so animated.
2336
02:10:05,338 --> 02:10:09,134
He's just jumping around.
He's lost all attempt to be cool.
2337
02:10:09,217 --> 02:10:11,011
He just loves her.
2338
02:10:13,847 --> 02:10:15,765
Jumping up and down. What a delight.
2339
02:10:15,849 --> 02:10:19,144
Roger Ebert called this the best film
of the year, and he was right.
2340
02:10:21,062 --> 02:10:23,982
And you wonder why
I still hang out with my mom.
2341
02:10:24,065 --> 02:10:25,150
Come on.
2342
02:10:25,233 --> 02:10:28,320
I met Roger Ebert at the awards,
and I hugged him
2343
02:10:28,403 --> 02:10:31,990
and whispered in his ear, "Thank you.
You've meant so much to my son's career."
2344
02:10:32,073 --> 02:10:35,744
Because he believed in Say Anything
early on, years ago, when no one else did.
2345
02:10:36,661 --> 02:10:40,832
He and Gene Siskel
really championed Say Anything
2346
02:10:40,915 --> 02:10:43,043
and kept the movie going.
2347
02:10:43,626 --> 02:10:46,629
So, thank you, thank you, Roger Ebert.
2348
02:10:47,547 --> 02:10:51,134
I'm very happy with the thank yous
we're able to send out while doing this,
2349
02:10:51,217 --> 02:10:55,055
because you obviously don’t get a chance
when you see the people...
2350
02:10:56,264 --> 02:11:00,310
in a premiere situation
or something like that.
2351
02:11:00,393 --> 02:11:03,855
You try and kind of shout
in their ear, "Thank you!"
2352
02:11:03,938 --> 02:11:06,691
But it's great to have
this opportunity to do it.
2353
02:11:07,609 --> 02:11:10,487
This was the--
2354
02:11:11,279 --> 02:11:15,700
This was the genius of John Toll,
one of the true great cinematographers.
2355
02:11:15,784 --> 02:11:20,246
John Toll said , "Let's do a scene--"
2356
02:11:20,330 --> 02:11:21,748
And it’s also one of the gifts
2357
02:11:21,831 --> 02:11:26,920
that we didn't have some huge
superstar actors in the scene
2358
02:11:27,003 --> 02:11:30,840
who would demand not to be subjected
to what I'm about to tell you.
2359
02:11:30,924 --> 02:11:36,471
But John Toll and I had this idea
to put this whole compartment on a gimbal.
2360
02:11:37,180 --> 02:11:40,934
So, instead of doing what a lot of
people do in plane crash-type scenes
2361
02:11:41,017 --> 02:11:43,144
where they shake the camera,
2362
02:11:43,686 --> 02:11:45,480
we shook the actors.
2363
02:11:45,563 --> 02:11:47,690
And we shook them for days on end.
2364
02:11:47,774 --> 02:11:49,234
-I didn't know that.
-Violently.
2365
02:11:49,317 --> 02:11:52,445
Violently. So, this is inside
a sound studio.
2366
02:11:52,529 --> 02:11:55,865
Oh, my God. Look at Jimmy Fallon.
He's gonna vomit.
2367
02:11:57,242 --> 02:11:59,869
At one point, Billy--
right after this take, I think,
2368
02:11:59,953 --> 02:12:02,789
Billy was crashed into the side...
2369
02:12:05,333 --> 02:12:08,086
because the gimbal went
out of control just a little bit.
2370
02:12:08,169 --> 02:12:09,879
-Just a little bit.
-Just a little bit.
2371
02:12:09,963 --> 02:12:12,674
But we are violently shaking this around.
2372
02:12:12,757 --> 02:12:15,760
And that's-- There's no tricks here.
2373
02:12:15,844 --> 02:12:18,555
No. That’s why it's so authentic.
2374
02:12:18,638 --> 02:12:20,890
They are riding a bronking horse.
2375
02:12:21,641 --> 02:12:24,394
-The pilot got the most brutalized.
-And how many takes, Cameron?
2376
02:12:26,729 --> 02:12:28,314
-A few.
-A few.
2377
02:12:28,982 --> 02:12:30,150
Look at--
2378
02:12:30,233 --> 02:12:31,693
The pilot really got--
2379
02:12:31,776 --> 02:12:34,112
-Because he had to get up and walk around.
-He had to get up and walk.
2380
02:12:34,195 --> 02:12:36,739
-And he got thrown around a lot.
-Oh, man.
2381
02:12:39,075 --> 02:12:40,910
But this sequence--
2382
02:12:41,786 --> 02:12:46,583
It's funny. This sequence was in my head
for many of the early drafts of the movie.
2383
02:12:46,666 --> 02:12:50,670
I always wanted it to be a rock movie
where the clichés almost happen
2384
02:12:50,753 --> 02:12:52,464
but are averted.
2385
02:12:52,547 --> 02:12:55,758
One of the big clichés,
besides an OD, which almost happens,
2386
02:12:55,842 --> 02:13:00,638
is the obligatory plane crash
that almost happens.
2387
02:13:00,722 --> 02:13:05,518
So, this was in all the drafts.
2388
02:13:05,602 --> 02:13:08,229
And years went by and I always thought,
2389
02:13:08,313 --> 02:13:13,651
"You know, this idea feels like
I could see this in another movie
2390
02:13:13,735 --> 02:13:15,278
if I don’t make this movie quickly."
2391
02:13:15,361 --> 02:13:19,240
It just felt like one of those ideas
that could get in the wind.
2392
02:13:19,908 --> 02:13:24,204
And so, miraculously,
I never saw anything approaching this--
2393
02:13:24,287 --> 02:13:25,997
A nearly-averted plane crash
2394
02:13:26,080 --> 02:13:29,334
where people tell truths
right before the plane almost crashes.
2395
02:13:30,877 --> 02:13:36,382
I thought I had gotten away with this
until the last episode of Seinfeld aired.
2396
02:13:36,466 --> 02:13:37,550
Yes.
2397
02:13:37,634 --> 02:13:40,887
And I watched this just as we were
getting ready, I think, to shoot.
2398
02:13:40,970 --> 02:13:42,889
-Or we already had shot.
-Oh, yes.
2399
02:13:42,972 --> 02:13:45,350
-And there was a scene like it.
-Yes.
2400
02:13:45,433 --> 02:13:50,146
And I , at that point,
had the option to cut it,
2401
02:13:50,230 --> 02:13:53,525
do it differently, or--
2402
02:13:55,109 --> 02:13:57,987
Or just continue on with the exact way
we were always gonna do it,
2403
02:13:58,071 --> 02:13:59,697
which I chose to do.
2404
02:13:59,781 --> 02:14:04,869
But I talked to a friend of mine
who was familiar with the story,
2405
02:14:04,953 --> 02:14:06,996
and I called them
after the Seinfeld episode,
2406
02:14:07,080 --> 02:14:09,874
which half of--
three-quarters of America watched.
2407
02:14:09,958 --> 02:14:11,251
Oh, yes.
2408
02:14:11,334 --> 02:14:15,797
I talked to my friend and I go, "So,
what'd you think of the Seinfeld episode?"
2409
02:14:15,880 --> 02:14:18,174
He's, like, "Yeah, it was pretty good.
It was good."
2410
02:14:18,258 --> 02:14:22,637
"Did you see the near-plane crash scene?"
2411
02:14:22,720 --> 02:14:25,598
And they were, like,
"Yes! What are you gonna do?"
2412
02:14:25,682 --> 02:14:28,101
It was one of those things
2413
02:14:28,184 --> 02:14:30,770
where you walk a tightrope as a writer
and you just decide, "Okay, well--"
2414
02:14:30,853 --> 02:14:32,647
Especially when you thought of it first.
2415
02:14:33,273 --> 02:14:34,857
Who knows who thought of it first?
2416
02:14:34,941 --> 02:14:39,612
But I am so glad that
we didn't get scared off of it,
2417
02:14:39,696 --> 02:14:41,698
because the two scenes
are very different, and--
2418
02:14:43,992 --> 02:14:46,035
And I love John Fedevich in this moment.
2419
02:14:46,119 --> 02:14:48,162
-Amazing actor.
-Yeah.
2420
02:14:48,246 --> 02:14:50,540
That wasn't in Seinfeld,
I'll tell you that.
2421
02:14:51,833 --> 02:14:53,167
I always wanted to ask you,
2422
02:14:53,251 --> 02:14:56,629
did anything even similar to this
happen to you in your career?
2423
02:14:56,713 --> 02:14:58,756
Yes, it happened twice.
2424
02:15:00,717 --> 02:15:05,054
It happened twice. Once in 1973
on a plane on a Who tour...
2425
02:15:06,055 --> 02:15:08,308
where I was with Neal Preston.
2426
02:15:08,391 --> 02:15:11,561
And we were actually--
The Who was not on the plane.
2427
02:15:11,644 --> 02:15:14,105
It was the T-shirt concession guy.
2428
02:15:14,188 --> 02:15:17,025
He was the first T-shirt concession guy
I'd ever met.
2429
02:15:17,108 --> 02:15:20,403
It was basically a guy
who barely knew how to fly,
2430
02:15:20,486 --> 02:15:24,782
with a cardboard box full of T-shirts,
and me and Neal.
2431
02:15:24,866 --> 02:15:28,995
-And so, the plane almost went down.
-I'm glad I didn't know. Oh, my God.
2432
02:15:29,078 --> 02:15:35,543
By the way, I just have to savor Jason Lee
knocking the wall with his fist.
2433
02:15:35,627 --> 02:15:37,754
-It's the greatest moment.
-It is.
2434
02:15:37,837 --> 02:15:40,632
And the other time,
it was on the road with my--
2435
02:15:41,341 --> 02:15:43,843
-Go, Jason.
-Yeah.
2436
02:15:43,926 --> 02:15:46,763
The other time
was with my wife's band, Heart,
2437
02:15:46,846 --> 02:15:48,681
and the plane almost went down
over Tupelo.
2438
02:15:48,765 --> 02:15:54,729
And almost all of that dialogue happened
in either exact ways or--
2439
02:15:54,812 --> 02:15:59,150
And you wondered why I was worried at home
dropping phones, Cameron, and calling?
2440
02:15:59,233 --> 02:16:00,777
I knew we were in trouble
2441
02:16:00,860 --> 02:16:03,946
when Howard Leese,
who was a guitar player in Heart,
2442
02:16:04,030 --> 02:16:07,617
who collected stewardess pins
and everything
2443
02:16:07,700 --> 02:16:09,577
and was the consummate flyer,
2444
02:16:09,661 --> 02:16:11,496
I knew we were in trouble
when Howard Leese said,
2445
02:16:11,579 --> 02:16:13,081
"We shouldn't be here!"
2446
02:16:13,164 --> 02:16:16,125
It was like, "Oh, shit!"
2447
02:16:17,960 --> 02:16:19,462
So that's what it felt like.
2448
02:16:19,545 --> 02:16:21,464
I also love this moment between Billy
and the kid.
2449
02:16:21,547 --> 02:16:25,343
Patrick's wave is just--
I love it so much.
2450
02:16:25,426 --> 02:16:29,305
And you also interviewed
a survivor of the Lynyrd Skynyrd crash.
2451
02:16:30,264 --> 02:16:32,642
Well, those guys were.. .
I was very close with them.
2452
02:16:33,768 --> 02:16:36,312
As to what happened in those last moments.
2453
02:16:36,396 --> 02:16:37,772
-Yeah.
-How many survived?
2454
02:16:39,273 --> 02:16:40,274
Well ...
2455
02:16:43,069 --> 02:16:44,946
One who was in the swamp...
2456
02:16:45,029 --> 02:16:51,536
The ones that died were the ones
I was pretty much closest to.
2457
02:16:51,619 --> 02:16:53,079
It was a rough time.
2458
02:16:55,039 --> 02:17:00,837
But Allen and Gary, who were in that band ,
told Al Kooper and I one night
2459
02:17:00,920 --> 02:17:03,256
the whole story of the plane crash
and it was chilling.
2460
02:17:03,339 --> 02:17:08,344
They knew they were going down
and they had the time, the opportunity...
2461
02:17:09,429 --> 02:17:13,766
and the need to tell each other
their secrets before the plane crashed.
2462
02:17:13,850 --> 02:17:15,727
-In actuality?
-In actuality.
2463
02:17:17,103 --> 02:17:20,106
Anyway, I always used to get mistaken
for a messenger.
2464
02:17:21,858 --> 02:17:24,485
-So this is a scene about that.
-Yeah. Delivery boy.
2465
02:17:24,569 --> 02:17:27,905
Didn't they think you were a delivery boy?
This scene-- I love this scene.
2466
02:17:27,989 --> 02:17:30,908
This should have been
in the theatrical version.
2467
02:17:30,992 --> 02:17:33,703
Didn't they just say you were
a delivery boy, go around the back?
2468
02:17:35,663 --> 02:17:36,873
That, and messenger.
2469
02:17:37,874 --> 02:17:39,041
There's Ben. Love that shirt.
2470
02:17:39,125 --> 02:17:40,126
Oh, baby.
2471
02:17:40,209 --> 02:17:41,753
-Love that stance.
-And the stance.
2472
02:17:42,670 --> 02:17:43,963
-Yeah.
-Oh, baby.
2473
02:17:44,046 --> 02:17:48,551
That's Hunter Thompson's
Aspen sheriff poster in the background.
2474
02:17:49,343 --> 02:17:51,804
Did you get anything on tape
with Russell Hammond?
2475
02:17:51,888 --> 02:17:55,266
There's the fact checker.
You never heard from the fact checker?
2476
02:17:55,349 --> 02:17:57,560
The real fact checker? No, I didn't.
2477
02:17:58,478 --> 02:18:01,105
It's funny, I heard from a lot of people
after the movie,
2478
02:18:01,189 --> 02:18:03,441
particularly on our website.
2479
02:18:04,150 --> 02:18:06,736
A lot of the girls from that era wrote in,
2480
02:18:06,819 --> 02:18:11,365
girls that had
so much supposed casual sex.
2481
02:18:12,492 --> 02:18:15,787
What's so funny is that
they all remembered everything
2482
02:18:15,870 --> 02:18:18,247
and it was never that casual,
2483
02:18:18,331 --> 02:18:21,709
even in the era of casual sex.
2484
02:18:22,418 --> 02:18:27,006
Which became a little bit of a theme
in Vanilla Sky the new movie.
2485
02:18:28,090 --> 02:18:31,928
"Is anything meaningful that happens
between people ever that casual?"
2486
02:18:32,011 --> 02:18:34,263
-Cameron Diaz's conversation.
-Yeah.
2487
02:18:35,431 --> 02:18:36,849
"Your body makes a promise."
2488
02:18:36,933 --> 02:18:39,435
I thought that was such a poetic line,
and so true.
2489
02:18:39,519 --> 02:18:42,438
Thanks, Mom. We'll just seg
right into the Vanilla Sky DVD.
2490
02:18:42,522 --> 02:18:44,524
-Yeah.
-We can start that now.
2491
02:18:45,149 --> 02:18:48,319
These are Polaroids that we took
during the making of the movie
2492
02:18:48,402 --> 02:18:50,613
that we sort of wanted to reminisce with.
2493
02:18:54,951 --> 02:18:58,246
We did this on a sound stage in Hollywood.
2494
02:18:58,329 --> 02:19:00,331
Did you allow the actors
to take the photography themselves?
2495
02:19:00,414 --> 02:19:02,333
Some of them. Yeah, some of them.
2496
02:19:02,416 --> 02:19:05,253
A lot of it was Neal .
A lot of it was Neal Preston.
2497
02:19:07,255 --> 02:19:11,425
Philip Hoffman-- This scene is funny.
This scene changed a lot.
2498
02:19:11,509 --> 02:19:15,596
Originally, it was a scene where Lester
was storming through the apartment
2499
02:19:15,680 --> 02:19:22,603
just shouting advice to this guy
like a warrior king,
2500
02:19:22,687 --> 02:19:26,524
and through rehearsals and discussion
with Phil Hoffman,
2501
02:19:26,607 --> 02:19:29,193
who is a brilliant actor
2502
02:19:29,277 --> 02:19:36,200
and really did only have
a few bursts of time to do this part--
2503
02:19:36,284 --> 02:19:39,120
Through conversations and rehearsals,
we decided to make this scene
2504
02:19:39,203 --> 02:19:43,416
about the only two guys in the world
still up,
2505
02:19:43,499 --> 02:19:45,126
and they’re talking with each other.
2506
02:19:46,252 --> 02:19:49,505
And this guy is--
2507
02:19:49,589 --> 02:19:53,926
And this was Phil Hoffman's note--
Lester was lonely.
2508
02:19:54,010 --> 02:19:55,136
Yes.
2509
02:19:57,263 --> 02:20:00,725
He channelled Lester so carefully.
2510
02:20:00,808 --> 02:20:02,560
It's funny that he said that...
2511
02:20:02,643 --> 02:20:04,854
I'm always home. I'm uncool.
2512
02:20:05,605 --> 02:20:06,772
...and kind of amazing,
2513
02:20:06,856 --> 02:20:10,735
because I knew Lester
but I had forgotten the loneliness...
2514
02:20:12,236 --> 02:20:16,282
and I had remembered him larger-than-life,
maybe without some of that loneliness.
2515
02:20:16,365 --> 02:20:18,910
But it was Phil Hoffman that said,
"I want to play that loneliness."
2516
02:20:18,993 --> 02:20:20,578
'Cause he'd studied Lester.
2517
02:20:20,661 --> 02:20:23,956
And that's how we came across this scene
which I'm really proud of.
2518
02:20:24,040 --> 02:20:25,958
It's a very moving scene.
2519
02:20:26,042 --> 02:20:29,795
I love the line, "Call me, I stay up late"
in another scene.
2520
02:20:29,879 --> 02:20:32,423
-"Call me. I stay up late."
-Yeah.
2521
02:20:32,506 --> 02:20:35,259
I think Philip Seymour Hoffman's
one actor that's long overdue for an Oscar
2522
02:20:35,343 --> 02:20:37,970
'cause he's always
picked good work for it.
2523
02:20:38,054 --> 02:20:42,308
I don't think he does it for that,
which is probably why he'll win.
2524
02:20:42,391 --> 02:20:45,561
-Did this all really happen ?
-I'll check the quotes.
2525
02:20:45,645 --> 02:20:47,939
Someday soon, we hope.
2526
02:20:48,022 --> 02:20:49,357
I love it, that tear.
2527
02:20:49,440 --> 02:20:51,734
Why didn't we put that
in the theatrical version?
2528
02:20:51,817 --> 02:20:53,736
-Where she rips the--
-Why didn't you?
2529
02:20:53,819 --> 02:20:55,821
You know, you lose your perspective.
2530
02:20:56,906 --> 02:21:01,285
But, you know, Mom,
Almost Famous is an ongoing experience...
2531
02:21:02,286 --> 02:21:04,455
and I hope you meet us here
in another six months
2532
02:21:04,538 --> 02:21:06,248
for another version of the movie.
2533
02:21:06,332 --> 02:21:09,126
I'm still waiting
for the sequel to the sequel.
2534
02:21:09,210 --> 02:21:12,546
-What would that be called? A "triquel"?
-A "triquel ."
2535
02:21:12,630 --> 02:21:15,800
A sequel to the sequel?
You want to jump ahead to volume three?
2536
02:21:15,883 --> 02:21:16,926
-Yeah.
-Interesting.
2537
02:21:17,009 --> 02:21:20,346
"The chicks are great"?
I sound like a dick.
2538
02:21:20,429 --> 02:21:21,430
I love that line.
2539
02:21:21,514 --> 02:21:22,932
I never said that.
2540
02:21:23,015 --> 02:21:25,309
Maybe we don't see ourselves
the way we really are.
2541
02:21:25,393 --> 02:21:27,353
No one has ever heard Billy say,
"You are a dick."
2542
02:21:27,436 --> 02:21:29,605
-I know. It's hidden in there.
-Ever.
2543
02:21:29,689 --> 02:21:30,690
So hidden.
2544
02:21:30,773 --> 02:21:33,317
He has you on acid, screaming,
"I'm a golden god."
2545
02:21:33,401 --> 02:21:34,735
They used him to fuck us.
2546
02:21:34,819 --> 02:21:39,699
"I am a golden god" came from Robert Plant
who shouted that out to Sunset Boulevard
2547
02:21:39,782 --> 02:21:41,867
when I was writing about them.
2548
02:21:41,951 --> 02:21:44,286
And when we showed the movie
to Led Zeppelin,
2549
02:21:44,370 --> 02:21:47,331
and Billy said,
"I never said I was a golden god,"
2550
02:21:47,415 --> 02:21:51,293
I heard Robert Plant's voice
in the darkened theater go, "I did!"
2551
02:21:52,878 --> 02:21:56,507
You. You had the right idea all along.
2552
02:21:56,590 --> 02:21:57,591
Silent Ed.
2553
02:21:57,675 --> 02:22:01,762
-Again, doing more with nothing.
-Eloquent in his silence.
2554
02:22:03,931 --> 02:22:06,017
Ivan, you gotta check this out.
I don't think you've seen this.
2555
02:22:06,100 --> 02:22:09,854
This is Jimmy Fallon's mystique rap...
2556
02:22:11,439 --> 02:22:14,066
which we're very happy
to have back in the movie.
2557
02:22:14,817 --> 02:22:16,736
Was it in the four-hour-long original cut?
2558
02:22:16,819 --> 02:22:17,820
-Yes.
-Yes.
2559
02:22:18,529 --> 02:22:19,530
Oh, you saw that version?
2560
02:22:19,613 --> 02:22:21,449
-Yeah, I saw that.
-Then you've seen this.
2561
02:22:23,284 --> 02:22:26,954
This is a lesson in mystique.
2562
02:22:27,663 --> 02:22:30,958
If you'd met me earlier,
he would have never been around.
2563
02:22:31,042 --> 02:22:34,628
And as they say, mystique is 80% ...
2564
02:22:36,338 --> 02:22:39,759
of your feelings about
any particular part of pop culture.
2565
02:22:39,842 --> 02:22:41,886
...happiness...
2566
02:22:41,969 --> 02:22:45,765
realizing your dreams, money, cool,
2567
02:22:45,848 --> 02:22:47,308
meeting the Beatles.
2568
02:22:48,059 --> 02:22:49,477
Let's put all of it in the pot.
2569
02:22:49,560 --> 02:22:52,980
There's another take where Jimmy goes,
"Meeting the actual Beatles!"
2570
02:22:54,315 --> 02:22:56,067
Hard to choose, Jimmy.
2571
02:22:56,859 --> 02:22:59,236
I'm surprised he didn't
hang on to that look after the film.
2572
02:22:59,320 --> 02:23:00,321
Yeah.
2573
02:23:00,404 --> 02:23:04,075
Before I go,
let me give you a lesson in mystique.
2574
02:23:04,158 --> 02:23:06,619
You can only have one.
Which one do you want?
2575
02:23:08,037 --> 02:23:09,830
Which one are you gonna choose?
2576
02:23:11,707 --> 02:23:14,710
I also love Jeff Bebe
in a Jeff Bebe T-shirt.
2577
02:23:16,462 --> 02:23:17,880
Another Robert Plant reference?
2578
02:23:18,589 --> 02:23:19,757
Yeah.
2579
02:23:22,927 --> 02:23:25,096
It's phenomenal, William,
to be quite honest with you.
2580
02:23:25,179 --> 02:23:26,222
It's sophisticated.
2581
02:23:26,305 --> 02:23:27,473
Jimmy. It's back.
2582
02:23:29,391 --> 02:23:33,437
Now let's watch Ben
just bail on William Miller.
2583
02:23:33,521 --> 02:23:38,442
This was an interesting thing.
Ben is so warm and mentoring.
2584
02:23:38,526 --> 02:23:41,445
As soon he finds out the story's fake,
2585
02:23:41,529 --> 02:23:46,242
or hears that the story could be fake,
he bails so fast.
2586
02:23:46,325 --> 02:23:47,701
Which Ben, in real life...
2587
02:23:47,785 --> 02:23:49,912
-Russell Hammond is the one who denied it.
-How wait a second.
2588
02:23:49,995 --> 02:23:52,957
...had a little more of a caring transition.
2589
02:23:53,040 --> 02:23:56,210
We're going with The Who.
Manuscript's in my office.
2590
02:23:56,293 --> 02:23:57,837
Well, see you later.
2591
02:23:59,964 --> 02:24:03,050
-You don't regret--
-He has a millisecond of regret.
2592
02:24:03,801 --> 02:24:05,052
Then it's over.
2593
02:24:05,803 --> 02:24:09,390
You know what Grandpa used to say,
Cameron. "If I see you, I don't know you."
2594
02:24:09,473 --> 02:24:10,474
Yeah, yeah.
2595
02:24:11,308 --> 02:24:12,852
When somebody turns--
2596
02:24:12,935 --> 02:24:17,106
Now, explain that this really happened
to all the nonbelievers.
2597
02:24:17,189 --> 02:24:20,651
This is one thing where I would
read in reviews or people would say,
2598
02:24:20,734 --> 02:24:23,362
"I liked the movie,
but this scene was so fake
2599
02:24:23,445 --> 02:24:26,448
where the sister
discovers the brother in the airport.
2600
02:24:26,532 --> 02:24:28,033
It's just too much of a coincidence."
2601
02:24:28,117 --> 02:24:31,495
-Well, it happened.
-It happened.
2602
02:24:31,579 --> 02:24:35,833
It happened at the end of the Gregg
Allman-- the Allman Brothers story.
2603
02:24:36,959 --> 02:24:42,173
And it’s a whole other story
I could tell someday, but I was...
2604
02:24:43,132 --> 02:24:46,719
Really, I basically was a zombie
2605
02:24:46,802 --> 02:24:48,762
and I was sitting
in the San Francisco airport,
2606
02:24:48,846 --> 02:24:49,889
trying to figure out what to do
2607
02:24:49,972 --> 02:24:51,974
about this Allman Brothers piece
for Rolling Stone
2608
02:24:52,057 --> 02:24:56,770
that had blown up in pieces
right in front of me,
2609
02:24:56,854 --> 02:24:58,022
and I didn't know what to do.
2610
02:24:58,105 --> 02:25:01,567
And my sister came by
in an outfit just like this.
2611
02:25:01,650 --> 02:25:03,819
-She worked for Western Airlines.
-PSA.
2612
02:25:03,903 --> 02:25:05,654
-This is a PSA outfit.
-California based.
2613
02:25:05,738 --> 02:25:09,867
Cindy worked for Western,
and she walked by and she said, "Cameron?"
2614
02:25:10,868 --> 02:25:13,495
And I was completely trashed and she said,
2615
02:25:13,579 --> 02:25:16,540
"You look terrible, but that's good.
2616
02:25:16,624 --> 02:25:17,625
I've been telling you.
2617
02:25:17,708 --> 02:25:22,630
You have to live your life
and get out from home, from Mom--"
2618
02:25:22,713 --> 02:25:25,466
I think she said, "Get out from your mom."
2619
02:25:25,549 --> 02:25:27,134
I do believe she said that.
2620
02:25:28,344 --> 02:25:34,308
And what happened was,
she did what Anita does in this movie.
2621
02:25:34,391 --> 02:25:39,104
She made sure I got home
and took care of me.
2622
02:25:39,188 --> 02:25:41,232
And it was an important event.
2623
02:25:42,608 --> 02:25:45,402
If it hadn’t happened, I probably wouldn't
have written it, but it did happen,
2624
02:25:45,486 --> 02:25:50,074
so I wanted to pay tribute to that moment.
2625
02:25:52,868 --> 02:25:56,247
-Zooey's amazing.
-I know. I love the noises they make here.
2626
02:25:57,748 --> 02:26:00,918
Alice, was it hard for you to watch
this reunion scene?
2627
02:26:01,001 --> 02:26:02,586
Yes. Yes, it was.
2628
02:26:03,545 --> 02:26:05,256
Sorry, I didn't mean to bring up anything.
2629
02:26:06,173 --> 02:26:07,800
I forgive you.
2630
02:26:09,426 --> 02:26:12,263
I came up with that on the spot.
"I forgive you." "I didn't apologize."
2631
02:26:12,346 --> 02:26:15,683
We only did it for one take on each side,
and I'm so glad we did.
2632
02:26:16,976 --> 02:26:19,478
I think Cindy wanted
a more traditional mom.
2633
02:26:20,980 --> 02:26:22,982
But she's used to me now.
2634
02:26:23,983 --> 02:26:25,609
-And you're used to her.
-Right.
2635
02:26:25,693 --> 02:26:28,696
-And she's a wonderful mother.
-Yes, she is.
2636
02:26:28,779 --> 02:26:31,782
-And acknowledges the same about you.
-Thank you.
2637
02:26:33,909 --> 02:26:36,328
-This is one of my favorite shots.
-Yes.
2638
02:26:37,288 --> 02:26:39,164
Now you're gonna watch Noah Taylor
2639
02:26:39,248 --> 02:26:43,585
just kind of give her a friendly--
with his fist, touch her body.
2640
02:26:43,669 --> 02:26:46,297
It's just a little intimate thing
that people do
2641
02:26:46,380 --> 02:26:49,591
when they've been intimate in the past
and they’re no longer.
2642
02:26:49,675 --> 02:26:51,302
But it's still-- Watch it.
2643
02:26:52,386 --> 02:26:53,929
See? It's very subtle.
2644
02:26:54,013 --> 02:26:56,098
-He just touches her.
-With his elbow.
2645
02:26:56,181 --> 02:26:59,351
Well, they're on the circus ride,
you know.
2646
02:27:00,853 --> 02:27:03,564
They've seen each other
in many different situations.
2647
02:27:03,647 --> 02:27:05,357
This is a scene-- This probably--
2648
02:27:05,441 --> 02:27:07,484
People have asked
what's the favorite thing
2649
02:27:07,568 --> 02:27:09,945
that you're going to put back in
for the longer version,
2650
02:27:10,029 --> 02:27:12,323
and it would probably be this.
2651
02:27:12,948 --> 02:27:15,326
This is the goodbye
between Bebe and Russell Hammond.
2652
02:27:15,409 --> 02:27:18,662
Ho, maybe not. I could work on it, though.
2653
02:27:18,746 --> 02:27:22,374
Jason had to get on a plane and go
to Toronto for the premiere of Mumford
2654
02:27:22,458 --> 02:27:26,420
so we were up against it on time,
I remember.
2655
02:27:26,503 --> 02:27:28,672
I just can't picture you with Leslie.
2656
02:27:29,548 --> 02:27:31,133
But we did come up with this idea.
2657
02:27:31,216 --> 02:27:33,635
I thought, "Wouldn't it be great
if when they try and hug--"
2658
02:27:33,719 --> 02:27:38,307
They're two guys who are not huggers,
but they try and hug, and it's a messy hug
2659
02:27:38,390 --> 02:27:41,185
and they knock over some shit in a cup.
2660
02:27:42,353 --> 02:27:45,814
They don't make it easy for themselves
to be emotional with each other...
2661
02:27:46,982 --> 02:27:48,942
and I love it.
2662
02:27:49,026 --> 02:27:52,196
I love the way they did it
and I love what Billy does.
2663
02:27:56,575 --> 02:27:58,869
It's why you became a director, sweetie.
2664
02:28:00,037 --> 02:28:01,038
These are the moments.
2665
02:28:01,121 --> 02:28:04,583
If you're lucky, you get actors
that bring it to life like that,
2666
02:28:04,666 --> 02:28:08,337
because without the actors,
it's just words on a page.
2667
02:28:09,213 --> 02:28:13,050
Billy has this wonderful melancholy mood
at the beginning of the scene,
2668
02:28:13,133 --> 02:28:16,345
and it was one of the few times
we played music that wasn't from the era.
2669
02:28:16,428 --> 02:28:18,722
We were playing Pearl Jam's "Nothingman,"
2670
02:28:18,806 --> 02:28:22,559
and he's listening to "Nothingman"
at the beginning of this sequence.
2671
02:28:22,643 --> 02:28:24,228
It really struck a chord in him.
2672
02:28:24,311 --> 02:28:25,396
William?
2673
02:28:25,479 --> 02:28:29,358
What do you care? I mean,
we all know what you did to him.
2674
02:28:29,441 --> 02:28:31,193
I mean, everybody knows.
2675
02:28:31,276 --> 02:28:35,239
This is an important exchange
that I'm glad is back in,
2676
02:28:35,322 --> 02:28:38,951
talking about the way
they'll remember this years later.
2677
02:28:41,995 --> 02:28:44,998
Something tells me, 20 years from now...
2678
02:28:45,541 --> 02:28:47,126
we'll remember her.
2679
02:28:48,544 --> 02:28:50,587
And not much else.
2680
02:28:51,630 --> 02:28:54,007
What does that guy in the pith helmet
doing back there?
2681
02:28:54,091 --> 02:28:57,428
-I can't take my eyes off him.
-Yeah.
2682
02:28:57,511 --> 02:28:59,138
And I don't know why
he's wearing a pith helmet.
2683
02:28:59,221 --> 02:29:02,850
No one questioned it at the time.
It was completely normal.
2684
02:29:05,144 --> 02:29:09,022
I mean, they don't even know
what it is to be a fan...
2685
02:29:10,357 --> 02:29:12,484
-This is his moment of realization.
-Yeah.
2686
02:29:12,568 --> 02:29:18,449
...to truly love some silly little
piece of music or some band so much
2687
02:29:18,532 --> 02:29:19,825
that it hurts.
2688
02:29:20,451 --> 02:29:21,952
Go, Fairuza.
2689
02:29:27,040 --> 02:29:28,125
Hello, Penny?
2690
02:29:28,208 --> 02:29:31,795
It's Russell. Don't hang up.
I can't really talk right now.
2691
02:29:31,879 --> 02:29:35,132
Clay Griffith with that
great blue wall in the background.
2692
02:29:35,215 --> 02:29:37,551
That's what a production designer
will give you.
2693
02:29:41,763 --> 02:29:44,391
Good to do a shout-out
to a lot of the people
2694
02:29:44,475 --> 02:29:45,893
that are on the fringes of the movie,
2695
02:29:45,976 --> 02:29:49,146
playing roadies,
and people that were with us for months.
2696
02:29:49,229 --> 02:29:50,522
They may not get a lot of lines,
2697
02:29:50,606 --> 02:29:52,316
but they had a lot to do
with the environment.
2698
02:29:52,399 --> 02:29:55,944
Ray Porter, who played one of the roadies.
J.J. Cohen.
2699
02:29:58,197 --> 02:29:59,281
Gary...
2700
02:30:00,908 --> 02:30:02,826
What was Gary's last name?
2701
02:30:02,910 --> 02:30:04,286
-Gary Douglas Kohn.
-Gary Douglas Kohn.
2702
02:30:04,369 --> 02:30:05,496
Gary.
2703
02:30:06,121 --> 02:30:08,874
Gary played one of the roadies. Great.
2704
02:30:08,957 --> 02:30:13,003
Cameron videotaped our living room,
where I've lived for 30 years,
2705
02:30:13,086 --> 02:30:18,258
and Clay Griffith reproduced it
faithfully.
2706
02:30:18,342 --> 02:30:20,969
One piece of furniture
that they haven't made in 30 years,
2707
02:30:21,053 --> 02:30:24,598
he found it in some rare antique shop.
2708
02:30:25,974 --> 02:30:29,311
So I'm really impressed
with the authenticity in this film.
2709
02:30:29,394 --> 02:30:30,562
Thanks, Mom.
2710
02:30:30,646 --> 02:30:34,191
The movie, scripted,
had a different ending,
2711
02:30:34,274 --> 02:30:36,443
in which Frances
2712
02:30:36,527 --> 02:30:40,822
is playing a Neil Young song
on the way home for the family.
2713
02:30:40,906 --> 02:30:44,952
And the scene just didn't come out right.
Part of it was the way I filmed it.
2714
02:30:45,035 --> 02:30:46,954
There was a Mrs. Butterworth's bottle
2715
02:30:47,037 --> 02:30:50,082
that just, for some reason,
overtook every shot.
2716
02:30:50,165 --> 02:30:52,417
Looked like the movie
was all about getting to the point
2717
02:30:52,501 --> 02:30:54,795
where the family
could love Mrs. Butterworth's.
2718
02:30:55,712 --> 02:30:58,131
So we cut it, and in the end,
2719
02:30:58,215 --> 02:31:00,676
we have pieces of it in there
as you'll see a little later.
2720
02:31:00,759 --> 02:31:03,095
But, you know, William--
2721
02:31:03,178 --> 02:31:07,182
The movie, theatrical version especially,
is through William's eyes.
2722
02:31:07,266 --> 02:31:08,976
But along the way,
I kept working on the ending
2723
02:31:09,059 --> 02:31:10,644
and right before we started filming,
2724
02:31:10,727 --> 02:31:15,315
I came up with this idea that Russell
and Elaine Miller would come together.
2725
02:31:15,399 --> 02:31:18,527
And Frances does
a four-stage reaction at the door,
2726
02:31:18,610 --> 02:31:20,279
which is fun to count.
2727
02:31:21,738 --> 02:31:25,951
I wanted to bring
these kind of twin pillars of influence
2728
02:31:26,034 --> 02:31:27,828
on the young William Miller,
2729
02:31:27,911 --> 02:31:29,580
I wanted to bring them together.
2730
02:31:31,873 --> 02:31:35,210
It's really great
to watch Frances and Billy,
2731
02:31:35,294 --> 02:31:39,840
who've worked together in plays
and know each other well , just--
2732
02:31:41,133 --> 02:31:45,012
Just so beautifully working together.
2733
02:31:45,095 --> 02:31:46,513
And you can kind of--
2734
02:31:46,597 --> 02:31:50,475
And Zooey Deschanel,
of course, striking a pose that just--
2735
02:31:50,559 --> 02:31:52,894
-I don't know why it's so funny but it is.
-Gets a huge laugh.
2736
02:31:52,978 --> 02:31:53,979
Yeah.
2737
02:31:54,062 --> 02:31:56,481
But you got to just watch
Frances and Billy here,
2738
02:31:56,565 --> 02:31:59,526
because these are two actors,
they're like...
2739
02:32:00,611 --> 02:32:05,449
They're like athletes that perform best
working off each other,
2740
02:32:05,532 --> 02:32:07,743
and it's a sight to see.
2741
02:32:08,910 --> 02:32:12,664
It was a long road getting these actors
in the parts that they're in.
2742
02:32:12,748 --> 02:32:18,211
I thought after Jerry Maguire it'd be easy
to get exactly who you wanted.
2743
02:32:19,421 --> 02:32:22,341
But the cast changed--
2744
02:32:22,424 --> 02:32:25,218
The chemistry of the cast changed.
2745
02:32:26,136 --> 02:32:31,058
And it was very fortuitous
that these people ended up in these parts,
2746
02:32:31,141 --> 02:32:33,393
because these are the ones.
2747
02:32:33,477 --> 02:32:35,896
-You are lucky.
-These are the ones.
2748
02:32:35,979 --> 02:32:37,773
-Enormously lucky.
-Yes.
2749
02:32:39,608 --> 02:32:41,693
-This is so much better.
-Somebody was smiling down on us.
2750
02:32:41,777 --> 02:32:44,446
-You bet.
-Look at these looks between them.
2751
02:32:44,529 --> 02:32:47,366
There's hope for you yet, Russell.
2752
02:32:48,575 --> 02:32:52,871
And here's Billy,
giving you again, with no words...
2753
02:32:52,954 --> 02:32:54,164
Yes.
2754
02:32:54,247 --> 02:32:56,792
-...the grace that the character needed.
-He's a fine, fine actor.
2755
02:32:56,875 --> 02:32:59,419
-There's El Cordobés. Yeah.
-That's my poster.
2756
02:33:02,172 --> 02:33:06,134
"Enough of this melancholy.
That's my poster, damn it."
2757
02:33:08,345 --> 02:33:10,681
What are you doing
with my poster, Cameron?
2758
02:33:11,264 --> 02:33:13,517
Before the movie's over,
2759
02:33:13,600 --> 02:33:19,690
I think it's really important to thank
and mention Larry Kasdan, who--
2760
02:33:19,773 --> 02:33:21,733
In the days after Jerry Maguire,
2761
02:33:21,817 --> 02:33:25,237
I spoke to Larry and I told him about
another project I was thinking of doing,
2762
02:33:25,320 --> 02:33:27,364
and he said,
2763
02:33:27,447 --> 02:33:30,450
"When are you going to do that movie
you've always been talking about?"
2764
02:33:30,534 --> 02:33:33,662
Larry I met for the first time
around the time of Say Anything.
2765
02:33:33,745 --> 02:33:37,749
He almost directed Say Anything.
Supported me to direct it myself.
2766
02:33:38,458 --> 02:33:43,088
And we talked about Lester Bangs
in this movie on that day back in 1988.
2767
02:33:43,171 --> 02:33:45,215
And when I talked to Larry years later,
he said,
2768
02:33:45,298 --> 02:33:48,051
"Why aren't you doing that movie
you always used to talk about?
2769
02:33:48,135 --> 02:33:51,179
If you don't do it now,
you're never gonna do it."
2770
02:33:51,263 --> 02:33:56,893
And it was on that day
that I put down what I was working on
2771
02:33:56,977 --> 02:34:00,147
and resurrected this project.
2772
02:34:00,230 --> 02:34:02,566
And that's why Larry’s thanked
at the end of the movie.
2773
02:34:02,649 --> 02:34:04,234
And I thank you too,
2774
02:34:04,317 --> 02:34:07,487
because I tried to get Cameron
to do this for ten long years.
2775
02:34:07,571 --> 02:34:09,322
But who listens to moms?
2776
02:34:09,406 --> 02:34:11,032
And he called me one day and said,
2777
02:34:11,116 --> 02:34:14,035
"I just talked to Larry Kasdan
and I told him I was gonna do the film."
2778
02:34:14,119 --> 02:34:15,203
So, thank you, Larry.
2779
02:34:15,287 --> 02:34:18,123
I met you at a party
and I thanked you in person.
2780
02:34:19,666 --> 02:34:21,543
Same night you met Mick Jagger, wasn't it?
2781
02:34:21,626 --> 02:34:23,003
-Yeah.
-Okay.
2782
02:34:23,086 --> 02:34:24,212
And Artie Shaw.
2783
02:34:24,296 --> 02:34:29,384
Larry and his wife, Meg Kasdan,
were real supporters of the project,
2784
02:34:29,468 --> 02:34:31,094
as was their son, Jon Kasdan,
2785
02:34:31,178 --> 02:34:35,640
that wrote me a letter very early on
saying the same thing.
2786
02:34:35,724 --> 02:34:37,392
And these were people that really...
2787
02:34:39,394 --> 02:34:43,732
were sort of crusaders to get me to do it.
2788
02:34:43,815 --> 02:34:49,488
And also, Andy and Scott, who are here,
this was not an easy movie to make,
2789
02:34:49,571 --> 02:34:53,074
so, to my friends and close family...
2790
02:34:53,158 --> 02:34:54,993
Faithful Scott and Andy.
2791
02:34:55,076 --> 02:34:58,246
A lot of people had to hear me going,
2792
02:34:58,330 --> 02:35:02,459
"Why am I making a movie about me?
Oh, my God!
2793
02:35:02,542 --> 02:35:04,753
Take me home, Mr. Wizard!"
2794
02:35:05,378 --> 02:35:07,339
"Mr. Wizard."
2795
02:35:07,422 --> 02:35:13,303
You guys put up
with a lot of small and large freak-outs,
2796
02:35:13,386 --> 02:35:18,391
and I'm just so happy I did this movie
and to be seeing it in this form.
2797
02:35:18,475 --> 02:35:21,353
So, gracias, señors y señoras.
2798
02:35:22,312 --> 02:35:25,440
-And thank you. You kept my son sane.
-Yes.
2799
02:35:26,650 --> 02:35:27,818
Joe Hutshing put this together.
2800
02:35:27,901 --> 02:35:30,987
That's a young man
from the Starlight Project who we put in.
2801
02:35:31,071 --> 02:35:33,156
-We finally got a place for him.
-Nice kid.
2802
02:35:34,908 --> 02:35:37,494
And there's a piece
of the Mrs. Butterworth's scene.
2803
02:35:37,577 --> 02:35:39,746
-And there she is!
-There's Mrs. Butterworth.
2804
02:35:41,122 --> 02:35:44,167
Kind of like a holy icon.
I don't know why.
2805
02:35:44,251 --> 02:35:45,877
It's like that Zeppelin thing,
"The Object."
2806
02:35:45,961 --> 02:35:48,421
"The Object." That’s right.
It's the obelisk.
2807
02:35:51,383 --> 02:35:56,638
Also, Eric Stoltz has been in every one
of the movies in one way or another.
2808
02:35:56,721 --> 02:36:01,643
We were gonna film Eric Stoltz
on a marquee at the end of this movie,
2809
02:36:01,726 --> 02:36:05,272
as his band The Crazy World of Eric Stoltz
was coming to Cleveland.
2810
02:36:05,355 --> 02:36:07,107
Again, we ran out of money.
2811
02:36:07,190 --> 02:36:11,111
But he does appear cryptically
at some point in Untitled,
2812
02:36:11,194 --> 02:36:14,364
and I say to anybody out there interested,
find Eric.
2813
02:36:14,447 --> 02:36:16,741
He's in there. The streak is alive.
2814
02:36:18,368 --> 02:36:19,953
I was always proud also
2815
02:36:20,036 --> 02:36:24,666
that we kept so long in black here
at the end of the movie.
2816
02:36:24,749 --> 02:36:27,961
We stayed in darkness with no titles.
2817
02:36:28,044 --> 02:36:29,129
It's great.
2818
02:36:29,212 --> 02:36:31,715
Because we had to
let "Tangerine" play out.
2819
02:36:32,924 --> 02:36:35,093
-It's a great song.
-But we didn’t have any more film.
2820
02:36:35,176 --> 02:36:39,222
So it's kind of like giving you a moment
just to listen to music at the end.
2821
02:36:39,973 --> 02:36:42,726
And then we play "Feel Flows"
with all the Polaroids.
2822
02:36:44,686 --> 02:36:49,733
The movie just keeps giving gifts to all
of us, I think, people that love music.
2823
02:36:49,816 --> 02:36:53,111
-And Jerry Ziesmer.
-I'm about to talk about Jerry Ziesmer.
2824
02:36:53,194 --> 02:36:55,280
-Jerry and Suzanne Ziesmer.
-Oh, yes.
2825
02:36:55,363 --> 02:36:57,991
This is their final movie
2826
02:36:58,074 --> 02:37:01,536
as assistant director
and co-assistant director,
2827
02:37:01,620 --> 02:37:02,871
Jerry and Suzanne are--
2828
02:37:02,954 --> 02:37:05,165
Thank you, Jerry,
for letting me get up on stage
2829
02:37:05,248 --> 02:37:07,584
and have one half-second in this film.
2830
02:37:07,667 --> 02:37:10,629
Okay. Thanks, Mom.
Not that you're keeping score.
2831
02:37:10,712 --> 02:37:12,589
But Jerry and Suzanne
kept everything going.
2832
02:37:12,672 --> 02:37:17,385
It was a tough movie to harness
and keep on course.
2833
02:37:17,469 --> 02:37:19,638
But you guys did it. Thank you.
2834
02:37:19,721 --> 02:37:24,184
Also want to mention Lisa Stewart
and Ian Bryce, who produced the movie.
2835
02:37:24,267 --> 02:37:29,689
Jeff Wexler and Don Coufal , who were
the great kings of production sound.
2836
02:37:29,773 --> 02:37:32,984
Doug Hemphill , Rick Kline
and Paul Massey, who we love,
2837
02:37:33,068 --> 02:37:35,445
to mix the movies in post-production.
2838
02:37:35,528 --> 02:37:39,449
And just a little sidenote
that’s not so little to me is,
2839
02:37:39,532 --> 02:37:43,536
the great presence in Almost Famous
is a man who's not there,
2840
02:37:43,620 --> 02:37:45,664
and it's the empty chair
at the dining room table
2841
02:37:45,747 --> 02:37:48,917
who represents the effect of my dad,
2842
02:37:49,000 --> 02:37:52,212
whose memory really is palpable
for all of us in my family.
2843
02:37:52,295 --> 02:37:56,091
And his presence
I wanted to be felt in Almost Famous too.
2844
02:37:56,174 --> 02:37:58,426
Not a day goes by
we don't miss James Crowe.
2845
02:37:58,510 --> 02:38:04,307
So I dedicate this Untitled cut
of the movie to him, my dad, Jim Crowe.
2846
02:38:05,058 --> 02:38:08,478
"Feel Flows" always
meant to be featured in the movie.
2847
02:38:08,561 --> 02:38:10,814
It's such a great Beach Boys song.
2848
02:38:10,897 --> 02:38:17,862
And it just had the feeling of grace
and kind of intoxicating good vibes,
2849
02:38:17,946 --> 02:38:21,741
and I wanted to end the movie
ultimately with this, if we could.
2850
02:38:21,825 --> 02:38:27,122
But the point is, a lot of odd, unexpected
gifts came about as a result of the movie,
2851
02:38:27,205 --> 02:38:32,210
and one of them was Brian Wilson,
who is the genius of the Beach Boys.
2852
02:38:32,293 --> 02:38:33,878
The first album you see
2853
02:38:33,962 --> 02:38:38,550
in the tartan bag of records
underneath the kid's bed in this movie--
2854
02:38:38,633 --> 02:38:40,301
Pet Sounds, Brian Wilson.
2855
02:38:40,385 --> 02:38:44,848
Brian Wilson was taken by his band
to go see Almost Famous in the theater.
2856
02:38:44,931 --> 02:38:47,142
He sat through it,
and at the end he heard this song,
2857
02:38:47,225 --> 02:38:49,936
which is sung by his late brother, Carl.
2858
02:38:50,020 --> 02:38:52,230
Afterwards, when the lights came up,
2859
02:38:52,313 --> 02:38:55,900
the guys in his band that took him
to see the movie said, "What'd you think?"
2860
02:38:55,984 --> 02:38:58,945
And he said, "I really loved it.
2861
02:38:59,029 --> 02:39:01,740
And listening to 'Feel Flows,'
2862
02:39:01,823 --> 02:39:04,826
I love that song
and I really miss my brother Carl."
2863
02:39:05,827 --> 02:39:11,374
And for me--
I'm a huge Carl Wilson, Brian Wilson fan.
2864
02:39:11,458 --> 02:39:14,210
It's just one of the great little
by-products of doing a movie
2865
02:39:14,294 --> 02:39:15,920
that really was a labor of love for us,
2866
02:39:16,004 --> 02:39:20,550
that you can actually touch
one of the people who touched you.
2867
02:39:20,633 --> 02:39:22,177
So, that was a cool thing.
2868
02:39:22,260 --> 02:39:26,598
I think that you have to hail
Michael Angarano and his parents also.
2869
02:39:26,681 --> 02:39:30,602
Yeah, Michael Angarano,
who played young William. Fantastic.
2870
02:39:31,436 --> 02:39:37,317
Ana Maria Quintana, script supervisor,
did so much post-production.
2871
02:39:37,400 --> 02:39:43,073
Ofe Jimenez, Heather Goodwin,
Mark, Saar, Joe, the editorial people.
2872
02:39:43,156 --> 02:39:47,118
Mike Thomas, the camera operator,
did an amazing job.
2873
02:39:47,202 --> 02:39:51,790
I hear that the pope is going to anoint
Joe Hutshing as the next saint.
2874
02:39:53,249 --> 02:39:54,959
-And I agree.
-Yes.
2875
02:39:55,043 --> 02:39:56,586
Well, particularly for Vanilla Sky
2876
02:39:56,669 --> 02:39:58,421
-But that's another story.
-Joe Hutshing is the editor.
2877
02:39:58,505 --> 02:39:59,672
He is an actor's best friend.
2878
02:39:59,756 --> 02:40:03,259
He is an actor's best friend
and so much fun to work with.
2879
02:40:03,343 --> 02:40:04,761
Saint Joe.
2880
02:40:05,845 --> 02:40:07,055
I just think, especially now,
2881
02:40:07,138 --> 02:40:10,058
it's a great time for this movie
to come out in this form.
2882
02:40:10,141 --> 02:40:15,105
Because for anyone that wanted
more so-called grit
2883
02:40:15,188 --> 02:40:21,277
or that kind of corrosive anger
that’s present in a lot of the best rock,
2884
02:40:21,361 --> 02:40:24,197
for anyone that wants that,
there are those movies,
2885
02:40:24,280 --> 02:40:28,368
and there are movies
featuring that slant that I love.
2886
02:40:28,451 --> 02:40:32,163
But I'm glad we made this one
because this one sort of fills in
2887
02:40:32,247 --> 02:40:36,751
a few colors that I hadn’t seen enough of.
2888
02:40:36,835 --> 02:40:38,128
And it is how it felt,
2889
02:40:38,211 --> 02:40:43,424
and in the end, you can only
tell the story that you can tell.
2890
02:40:43,508 --> 02:40:47,846
And this was what it felt like to me
to be 15 in 1973
2891
02:40:47,929 --> 02:40:50,682
and taken in to this world.
2892
02:40:50,765 --> 02:40:53,059
I feel like no matter
what kind of movie I wanted to make,
2893
02:40:53,143 --> 02:40:54,602
it was gonna end up being this,
2894
02:40:54,686 --> 02:40:59,190
because this was what it looked like
through my fan's eyes.
2895
02:40:59,274 --> 02:41:00,483
So...
2896
02:41:00,567 --> 02:41:02,235
You didn't expect the Oscar.
2897
02:41:02,318 --> 02:41:05,446
And how wonderful that you got it
'cause you surely earned it.
2898
02:41:06,281 --> 02:41:07,323
I agree.
2899
02:41:08,366 --> 02:41:11,911
-I got those-- I stay up late.
-Did that really happen?
2900
02:41:11,995 --> 02:41:14,873
I get your
two-o'clock-in-the-morning calls.
2901
02:41:16,708 --> 02:41:20,628
-Well, I'm glad I got to stand up--
-I'm your mom and your shrink.
2902
02:41:20,712 --> 02:41:24,841
And I got to stand up at a podium
and hail you a little bit.
2903
02:41:24,924 --> 02:41:26,926
-So, thanks, Mom.
-Thank you.