0 00:00:04,840 --> 00:00:07,957 První veøejnoprávní Èestmír Kopecký 1 00:00:08,600 --> 00:00:12,195 in co-production with Slovak Film Institute, Cinemart and UPP 2 00:00:12,360 --> 00:00:13,918 presents 3 00:00:14,080 --> 00:00:16,753 25 from the Sixties, or the Czechoslovak New Wave 4 00:00:17,320 --> 00:00:22,553 A documentary film Part II 5 00:00:23,440 --> 00:00:25,829 Script 6 00:00:26,720 --> 00:00:29,154 Sound 7 00:00:30,000 --> 00:00:32,434 Editing 8 00:00:33,240 --> 00:00:36,073 Directors of Photography 9 00:00:36,920 --> 00:00:39,434 Production Manager 10 00:00:40,200 --> 00:00:42,668 Produced by 11 00:00:43,600 --> 00:00:46,114 Directed by 12 00:00:53,480 --> 00:00:57,996 In the mid-sixties the New Wave briskly pours over to Slovakia. 13 00:00:58,160 --> 00:01:03,632 Despite the previous generation of older FAMU graduates 14 00:01:03,800 --> 00:01:07,315 like Uher, Barabas, Solan, Holy, 15 00:01:07,480 --> 00:01:12,156 there come their followers Havetta, Hanak, Jakubisko. 16 00:01:12,320 --> 00:01:17,155 We could also mention Ivan Balada and Juraj Herz 17 00:01:17,320 --> 00:01:20,915 but they were Slovaks who stayed in Czech 18 00:01:21,080 --> 00:01:24,197 and in Slovakia they made several TV films, 19 00:01:24,360 --> 00:01:29,832 like Balada's Lady, or Herz's Sweet Games of the Last Summer. 20 00:01:30,000 --> 00:01:36,712 Perhaps the most vigorous entry among Slovakian filmmakers 21 00:01:36,880 --> 00:01:40,236 came with Juraj Jakubisko and his film Crucial Years. 22 00:01:47,520 --> 00:01:48,839 Turn to me. Boom! 23 00:02:05,720 --> 00:02:08,280 A game. Life is a battlefield. 24 00:02:08,440 --> 00:02:12,558 The idea is not mine, it was written by Jarda Ucen 25 00:02:12,720 --> 00:02:18,317 and Koliba production gave it a thumb up. 26 00:02:18,480 --> 00:02:23,554 The original title was Runway. 27 00:02:23,720 --> 00:02:29,511 It was a story of two brothers, a painter and a pilot, 28 00:02:29,680 --> 00:02:36,233 the pilot died during the Cuban missile crisis and the silly painter 29 00:02:36,400 --> 00:02:39,119 who had painted nothing but abstract pictures, realized 30 00:02:39,280 --> 00:02:42,033 that his art must serve socialism and peace. 31 00:02:42,200 --> 00:02:47,228 Dohnal read it and said: Man, what is the film about? 32 00:02:47,760 --> 00:02:54,279 I said: How can you not know? See, this here is the beginning 33 00:02:54,440 --> 00:03:03,314 As a boy I came to a beehive and we played with toy guns, 34 00:03:03,480 --> 00:03:10,670 and then I lived with this girl who worked in an asylum 35 00:03:10,840 --> 00:03:14,116 and we'd fool around with a stuffed arm 36 00:03:14,280 --> 00:03:22,312 So I kept telling him stuff about every single scene 37 00:03:22,480 --> 00:03:26,871 and as I finished, he said: 38 00:03:27,040 --> 00:03:32,239 Alright, let's write down all these things you've told me. 39 00:03:32,400 --> 00:03:35,119 And that's how Crucial Years came to existence. 40 00:03:48,680 --> 00:03:53,879 It was an autobiography because Jana was my girlfriend back then 41 00:03:54,040 --> 00:03:57,589 and we'd gone through many things together. 42 00:03:57,760 --> 00:04:02,914 She was an artist and had a gorgeous long neck. 43 00:04:03,080 --> 00:04:07,517 Once I was in a production room 44 00:04:07,680 --> 00:04:13,038 and there came Vlado Müller who had just acted in The Hangman. 45 00:04:13,200 --> 00:04:17,398 He says: I've just finished post dubbing, got a job for me? 46 00:04:17,560 --> 00:04:19,232 The production manager said: 47 00:04:19,400 --> 00:04:22,517 This young director is about to make a new film, read it. 48 00:04:22,680 --> 00:04:26,434 And Müller called the next day saying: I'm in. 49 00:04:38,680 --> 00:04:42,593 Then we had to cast the other character and wanted Abrham. 50 00:04:42,760 --> 00:04:47,993 We rehearsed with him, he even brought some girls to act there 51 00:04:48,160 --> 00:04:56,158 but right before shooting he came and said: 52 00:04:56,320 --> 00:05:01,030 Juraj, I can't do this. I was asked to act in Spring Waters 53 00:05:01,880 --> 00:05:11,869 and it's a unique opportunity. It may be the role of my life. 54 00:05:13,240 --> 00:05:16,516 So there came Jirka Sykora, 55 00:05:16,680 --> 00:05:21,515 totally different from what I'd had in mind; no hunk, see? 56 00:05:21,680 --> 00:05:27,152 Unlike the handsome Abrham but then I thought why not? 57 00:05:27,320 --> 00:05:35,512 If you manage to make people like this chubby guy, good on you, 58 00:05:35,680 --> 00:05:45,476 you're a director, right? It might be a good film then. 59 00:06:03,360 --> 00:06:08,639 I thought it lacked an explosion of light 60 00:06:08,800 --> 00:06:15,592 and back then I didn't consider tones and shades. 61 00:06:15,760 --> 00:06:24,839 So, as we were shooting from a tower next to a church 62 00:06:25,000 --> 00:06:32,953 sharply lit by the sun from behind it created a huge light contrast 63 00:06:33,120 --> 00:06:39,355 and later during some screening Juraj says: Where is the tower? 64 00:06:39,520 --> 00:06:43,195 All we could see was some ghost 65 00:06:43,360 --> 00:06:50,277 but it looked much better than some realistic image. 66 00:06:50,800 --> 00:06:51,869 Hey, Jana 67 00:07:08,160 --> 00:07:12,199 You like me. You're crazy about me, aren't you? 68 00:07:12,840 --> 00:07:21,589 These visual jokes come out of a natural, full-bodied image. 69 00:07:21,760 --> 00:07:30,509 The 16mm film copied from another 16mm film resulted 70 00:07:30,680 --> 00:07:41,716 in an image of a convincing verity sunk in a grainy picture. 71 00:08:01,240 --> 00:08:07,952 Crucial Years were labeled the worst camera work in Koliba 72 00:08:08,640 --> 00:08:15,478 however I knew this would not only help me move forward 73 00:08:15,640 --> 00:08:18,871 but I also knew this was me. 74 00:08:21,920 --> 00:08:23,956 I'm also hard to see through. 75 00:08:56,800 --> 00:08:59,678 Helge belongs to the generation 76 00:08:59,840 --> 00:09:04,516 affected by a conference in Banska Bystrica. 77 00:09:04,680 --> 00:09:10,676 His School for Fathers gained some official acclaim 78 00:09:10,840 --> 00:09:16,392 but in Great Solitude he was forced to change its ending. 79 00:09:16,560 --> 00:09:21,156 This concession affected all his following film works 80 00:09:21,320 --> 00:09:25,233 and it was as late as in 1967 with his film Shame 81 00:09:25,400 --> 00:09:30,872 when he returned to the original moral ground of School for Fathers. 82 00:09:31,720 --> 00:09:37,431 Shame is a story of a corrupted communist 83 00:09:39,080 --> 00:09:47,636 and this topic preceded what the whole 1968 year was about, 84 00:09:48,120 --> 00:09:53,717 about searching for a moral responsibility for the 50's and on. 85 00:09:53,880 --> 00:09:55,074 What's going on? 86 00:09:55,240 --> 00:09:57,800 Comrade chairman, sorry but this is an order. 87 00:09:57,960 --> 00:10:01,714 - What order? - An order to bring Mr Kvasica to the hearing 88 00:10:01,880 --> 00:10:06,032 Did you hear it? What Mr? He's just as much a comrade as you are. 89 00:10:06,200 --> 00:10:09,158 - Sorry, comrade chairman. - So what's going on? 90 00:10:10,000 --> 00:10:12,639 Here's an order from the prosecutor. 91 00:10:13,160 --> 00:10:18,188 We started to prepare Shame when I was a member of FITES 92 00:10:18,360 --> 00:10:20,999 and things went pretty smoothly. 93 00:10:21,160 --> 00:10:25,358 I can't remember any major obstacles concerning the screenplay. 94 00:10:25,520 --> 00:10:33,677 It was quickly approved, quickly shot but the story came too late. 95 00:10:33,840 --> 00:10:37,549 If it had been presented in 1967 96 00:10:37,720 --> 00:10:45,354 I wouldn't have wished to be in shoes of the responsible director. 97 00:10:46,200 --> 00:10:51,832 A rape. I've got a daughter myself. That man deserves to... 98 00:10:52,000 --> 00:10:55,436 But if you just knew how hard he can work. 99 00:10:56,560 --> 00:11:01,588 The worst agricultural cooperative around and all of a sudden... 100 00:11:03,640 --> 00:11:07,394 Go take a look at what he's managed to conjure up. 101 00:11:07,760 --> 00:11:14,279 The only obstacle came from the county council in Mikulov. 102 00:11:14,440 --> 00:11:19,673 They asked for a screenplay which had never happened before. 103 00:11:19,840 --> 00:11:25,756 Although I had made two films there they recommended me 104 00:11:25,920 --> 00:11:28,480 to shoot this film somewhere else 105 00:11:28,640 --> 00:11:34,670 because the story puts Mikulov to shame and we should be careful 106 00:11:34,840 --> 00:11:43,509 because the symbolism of the Mikulov castle resembles the Prague Castle. 107 00:11:44,000 --> 00:11:48,676 So I went to see them and eventually we came to an agreement. 108 00:11:49,200 --> 00:11:53,113 This here is my old friend, we worked at the same workbench. 109 00:11:53,280 --> 00:11:57,068 - He's got troubles getting a flat. - But we don't allot flats. 110 00:11:57,240 --> 00:12:00,755 I know but how about a public interest? 111 00:12:01,720 --> 00:12:06,874 There are strict rules concerning a recognition of a public interest. 112 00:12:07,040 --> 00:12:12,592 - You think this comrade... Hromek. - Comrade Hromek might fit in? 113 00:12:13,280 --> 00:12:17,671 What is this jack-in-office thing? There are rules and there is a man. 114 00:12:17,840 --> 00:12:21,150 A director is responsible for everything, 115 00:12:21,320 --> 00:12:27,998 he cannot make any excuses because he can change circumstances. 116 00:12:28,720 --> 00:12:32,599 And I support a concept of a political film. 117 00:12:32,760 --> 00:12:37,470 This is why I was attacked by Vaclav Havel once... 118 00:12:39,280 --> 00:12:41,999 There was this magazine Kveten 119 00:12:42,160 --> 00:12:45,152 and once I discussed film there with Vojtech Jasny, 120 00:12:45,320 --> 00:12:47,550 arguing about a form and a content. 121 00:12:47,720 --> 00:12:51,349 Jasny supported a form, I supported a content 122 00:12:51,520 --> 00:12:59,552 When Vaclav Havel justly stepped in with a disputative article claiming 123 00:13:00,200 --> 00:13:15,309 that my dull opinions don't deserve discussions but I can't help myself. 124 00:13:15,480 --> 00:13:23,114 I think that film as an art must be a part of the society I live in. 125 00:13:23,720 --> 00:13:27,713 - How old are you? - 14. Didn't they tell you? 126 00:13:27,880 --> 00:13:32,271 I'm here to help you if you wish. Are you feeling any pain? 127 00:13:33,880 --> 00:13:36,394 Speak, you dummy, when this gentleman is talking to you. 128 00:13:38,000 --> 00:13:39,353 No, I don't feel any pain. 129 00:13:41,320 --> 00:13:42,309 Have you taken her to a doctor? 130 00:13:42,480 --> 00:13:45,438 Come on, doctors and police, we never get anywhere else. 131 00:13:47,240 --> 00:13:49,435 If you'd kept quiet, you stupid cow there'd be no fuss. 132 00:13:49,880 --> 00:13:54,317 I think Helge himself considered Shame a part of a loose trilogy 133 00:13:54,480 --> 00:14:00,271 School for Fathers, Great Solitude and Shame where even cast repeats. 134 00:14:00,440 --> 00:14:05,434 The interesting thing is that Helge liked to cast Slovak actors, 135 00:14:05,600 --> 00:14:10,435 probably due to their expressive acting 136 00:14:10,600 --> 00:14:18,029 but at the same time he never casted non-actors for roles of countrymen. 137 00:14:18,200 --> 00:14:26,312 He always relied on traditional directing methods and acting. 138 00:14:26,800 --> 00:14:28,074 So, did you see it? 139 00:14:28,240 --> 00:14:32,279 What the hell was that? A baby. Who messed this up? 140 00:14:32,440 --> 00:14:34,795 Ask this engineer who reported. 141 00:14:35,280 --> 00:14:41,310 - Just tell him. - I know it was lame. 142 00:14:42,280 --> 00:14:44,874 But if it weren't for this girl justice would sleep on. 143 00:14:45,520 --> 00:14:47,556 You didn't want to hear about any of the filth here. 144 00:14:47,720 --> 00:14:59,234 Eventually the film was critically acclaimed, mainly abroad. 145 00:14:59,400 --> 00:15:04,918 I simply like that film because it brought me back to my roots. 146 00:15:05,080 --> 00:15:11,997 Its intention is honest and the film itself is pretty good. 147 00:15:12,160 --> 00:15:18,190 I gained a lot more self-esteem 148 00:15:18,360 --> 00:15:23,832 and as a director I felt much better. 149 00:15:25,320 --> 00:15:31,509 That's why it felt so bad when it cut me off my next filmmaking. 150 00:15:33,200 --> 00:15:36,237 Hey you! 151 00:15:37,560 --> 00:15:39,471 Show up! 152 00:15:40,600 --> 00:15:43,319 Why are you so quiet? 153 00:15:47,120 --> 00:15:51,352 I know you all. 154 00:15:53,640 --> 00:15:57,553 You wanna get rid of me? You wish. 155 00:15:59,800 --> 00:16:03,110 To get rid of me? 156 00:16:05,960 --> 00:16:08,428 This is me. Me! 157 00:16:13,440 --> 00:16:16,955 May I offer you a lift, Madam? 158 00:16:17,800 --> 00:16:22,078 - Why don't you take us. - I don't have a licence. 159 00:16:22,240 --> 00:16:24,708 No way, it's illicit. 160 00:16:25,200 --> 00:16:32,197 Jiri Krejcik as well as other older directors did not go the easy way. 161 00:16:32,360 --> 00:16:35,796 In the 40's he made his first excellent films 162 00:16:35,960 --> 00:16:38,474 like A Week in the Quiet House, or Conscience. 163 00:16:38,640 --> 00:16:44,158 During the 50's his works sometimes lost its quality, 164 00:16:44,320 --> 00:16:48,871 like Frona, but in the late 50's he is back on a track 165 00:16:49,040 --> 00:16:53,318 with Higher Principle, a film which belongs to our treasures. 166 00:16:53,480 --> 00:16:58,508 From the mid-sixties he joined the New Wave and made films like 167 00:16:58,680 --> 00:17:05,950 Boarding House for Single Gentlemen a A Hard and Fast Marriage. 168 00:17:06,120 --> 00:17:08,634 I want you to answer this important question: 169 00:17:08,800 --> 00:17:14,193 Is the railway here for people, or is the railway here for people? 170 00:17:15,320 --> 00:17:20,917 Stop it, will you? Give me the ticket. 171 00:17:21,080 --> 00:17:24,152 - Hang on, he hasn't replied yet. - Give it to me. 172 00:17:24,320 --> 00:17:26,276 Let's go, this is demeaning. 173 00:17:26,920 --> 00:17:32,313 I based this short film story very loosely on a real event 174 00:17:32,480 --> 00:17:39,909 which took place in Ceska Trebova. That was A Hard and Fast Marriage. 175 00:17:40,360 --> 00:17:41,918 I was raped. 176 00:17:42,800 --> 00:17:47,874 Raped? You're saying it as if you've just bought candies. 177 00:17:49,600 --> 00:17:53,991 Any woman could say that. I mean, every other woman could. 178 00:17:54,160 --> 00:17:58,438 When I mentioned the metamorphosis of a social conscience, 179 00:17:58,600 --> 00:18:03,276 a conscience of people who were in charge of cultural sphere, 180 00:18:03,440 --> 00:18:14,112 I meant dramaturgists like Sebor, Bor, Novotny etc. 181 00:18:14,280 --> 00:18:19,832 Those were fantastic men, very open to discussions. 182 00:18:20,000 --> 00:18:27,190 And when they intervened, they were doing so very gently. 183 00:18:28,960 --> 00:18:32,111 What is it you have there? Let me see. 184 00:18:35,080 --> 00:18:40,108 Name Krejcik means there comes a film which is not average. 185 00:18:40,280 --> 00:18:48,039 Of course I was to find out later on our cooperation wouldn't be easy. 186 00:18:48,200 --> 00:18:55,436 See, Mr Krejcik is a choleric person, just like me. 187 00:18:55,600 --> 00:19:05,635 And the final version of the script must be adjusted so he feels secure 188 00:19:05,800 --> 00:19:10,920 because he never improvises during the shooting itself, 189 00:19:11,080 --> 00:19:13,958 everything must be precisely prepared in advance. 190 00:19:14,120 --> 00:19:18,318 So things would often get pretty heated during the preproduction. 191 00:19:18,800 --> 00:19:21,712 - Well, that's a proper hole. - He must have had bigger tongs. 192 00:19:22,400 --> 00:19:25,790 Drop the joking, we all have the same tongs. 193 00:19:27,680 --> 00:19:29,636 A drink and drive case again. 194 00:19:30,080 --> 00:19:33,868 Sir, I am taking this driver's license away from you. 195 00:19:34,600 --> 00:19:44,157 Me and Mr Krejcik went to a police office and its head-chief told us: 196 00:19:44,320 --> 00:19:50,475 Gentlemen, we cannot ban it but of course neither support it. 197 00:19:53,760 --> 00:20:00,199 I mean if you cast young Pucholt for the role of the young cop 198 00:20:00,360 --> 00:20:04,114 we will have problems recruiting new young policemen, 199 00:20:04,280 --> 00:20:07,238 we can offer them only a small wage 200 00:20:07,400 --> 00:20:12,349 plus if they see the Pucholt guy, no one will ever join us. 201 00:20:12,960 --> 00:20:16,430 Calm down. We've got our means that make even scholars calm down. 202 00:20:30,760 --> 00:20:32,273 Perlustration! 203 00:20:45,240 --> 00:20:49,756 I knew Krejcik would also cast Kmoch's bandmaster 204 00:20:49,920 --> 00:20:56,951 who was an amazing natural talent, as well as Iva Janzurova. 205 00:20:57,120 --> 00:21:01,272 Actually as luck would have it the whole cast was a great crowd 206 00:21:01,440 --> 00:21:07,629 willing to help each other. 207 00:21:07,920 --> 00:21:13,916 See, officer, we can never win over the crime with people like you. 208 00:21:14,680 --> 00:21:20,357 You'll save us, I bet. Breath deep, come on. 209 00:21:27,840 --> 00:21:33,073 Officer, why don't people like us? 210 00:21:33,480 --> 00:21:38,554 I think Krejcik got to like Forman's early films 211 00:21:38,720 --> 00:21:45,910 so he casted Hana Brejchova, Jana's sister as the main character 212 00:21:46,080 --> 00:21:49,868 and I was to play the bride. 213 00:21:51,080 --> 00:21:54,709 He gathered us in the Film Club and we started rehearsing. 214 00:21:54,880 --> 00:22:02,434 But Hana wasn't a professional, she was overacting and shy 215 00:22:02,600 --> 00:22:07,628 so he had to recast her role. 216 00:22:07,800 --> 00:22:11,076 He took me to hairdresser, had them dye my hair blond, 217 00:22:11,240 --> 00:22:22,276 we shot some camera tests over night and I got the role of the raped Hana. 218 00:22:22,880 --> 00:22:25,713 - She seduced him! - Why would she do it? Come on. 219 00:22:26,640 --> 00:22:29,234 She seduced him and you back her up. 220 00:22:29,400 --> 00:22:31,868 What a nerve, coming into our kitchen. 221 00:22:32,040 --> 00:22:35,191 - I can't leave her outside, come. - What a slut. 222 00:22:36,840 --> 00:22:40,674 - What did you just say? - She didn't mean it. 223 00:22:40,840 --> 00:22:44,037 Jesus, this is too much. 224 00:22:44,200 --> 00:22:48,591 I recommend you to tell your daughter to be very careful 225 00:22:48,760 --> 00:22:51,399 when talking about seduction. 226 00:22:51,560 --> 00:22:53,357 Very careful! 227 00:22:53,520 --> 00:22:58,071 I love Krejcik because he can get totally obsessed. 228 00:22:58,240 --> 00:23:03,439 He says: You've got to munch on the cake piece by piece. 229 00:23:03,600 --> 00:23:08,549 He loves the expression "munch" so I obey his instructions 230 00:23:08,720 --> 00:23:15,751 and it takes him to next scenes. 231 00:23:16,280 --> 00:23:24,631 I knew a garage foreman who gave a woman his watch and 300 crowns 232 00:23:25,400 --> 00:23:30,474 and after he took it away from her that bitch reported a rape. 233 00:23:30,640 --> 00:23:38,194 Sixties were basically about people recognizing real values, 234 00:23:38,360 --> 00:23:45,357 accelerating truth and honesty. 235 00:23:45,520 --> 00:23:55,031 Most of the films were critical but at the same time they had a vision. 236 00:23:55,200 --> 00:24:00,194 No matter how harsh things they described, there was always hope 237 00:24:00,360 --> 00:24:03,875 because there was a hope inside the filmmaker himself. 238 00:24:04,280 --> 00:24:08,159 In this special moment I am sure you want to thank all those people 239 00:24:08,320 --> 00:24:12,199 who love you the most, who have worked for you, 240 00:24:12,360 --> 00:24:15,318 who have been looking after you, 241 00:24:15,480 --> 00:24:18,950 trying to make your life better then their own has been. 242 00:24:19,120 --> 00:24:23,318 Surely you want to make their lives joyous by being happy. 243 00:24:24,440 --> 00:24:25,270 I do. 244 00:24:38,400 --> 00:24:40,595 Hey, down to the village? 245 00:24:49,760 --> 00:24:50,954 Can't you recognize me? 246 00:24:53,400 --> 00:24:58,633 Films in the 60's would often take literature as a source of topics 247 00:24:58,800 --> 00:25:03,237 which is logical because literature was also experiencing a boom, 248 00:25:03,400 --> 00:25:10,158 writers like Hrabal, Paral, Lustig, Askenazy, or in Slovakia Tatarka, 249 00:25:10,320 --> 00:25:18,557 Bednar, Mnacko, they all brought up new views of the world 250 00:25:18,720 --> 00:25:23,191 and naturally they became an inspiration for filmmakers. 251 00:25:23,360 --> 00:25:27,831 Among Slovakian filmmakers there was an exception, 252 00:25:28,000 --> 00:25:30,355 Grecner's The Return of Dragon 253 00:25:30,520 --> 00:25:34,399 was based on an older prose by Dobroslav Chrobak. 254 00:25:35,440 --> 00:25:42,630 After writing his novel Chrobak was accused of plagiarism 255 00:25:42,800 --> 00:25:49,512 by doctor Felix who was giving Chrobak a really hard time. 256 00:25:49,680 --> 00:25:53,878 The main motif of Dragon is a loss of dignity 257 00:25:54,040 --> 00:26:01,799 which is Chrobak's inner fight to gain back his reputation. 258 00:26:01,960 --> 00:26:08,991 I thought this topic was worth it 259 00:26:09,160 --> 00:26:13,073 because one becomes a hero only by starting something impossible. 260 00:26:14,040 --> 00:26:15,712 He's come back to you. 261 00:26:20,080 --> 00:26:21,957 Dragon is back. 262 00:26:29,720 --> 00:26:32,792 If you remember Grecner's version 263 00:26:32,960 --> 00:26:36,157 Dragon is not returning, he is actually leaving. 264 00:26:36,320 --> 00:26:42,031 It is a totally skeptical view of an individual's attempts 265 00:26:42,200 --> 00:26:47,194 to become a part of a society which once hurt him badly. 266 00:26:47,360 --> 00:26:56,871 It is not one of typical folklore films as we know them from 50's. 267 00:26:57,040 --> 00:27:04,799 Artistically and emotionally it heads toward paganism. 268 00:27:04,960 --> 00:27:08,999 Dragon is a potter which is one of the oldest trades. 269 00:27:09,160 --> 00:27:13,995 There are simplified, stylized costumes. 270 00:27:14,160 --> 00:27:20,349 Even in the context of 60's the film is strange and unique. 271 00:27:21,440 --> 00:27:26,036 I consider folklore a soul of a nation. 272 00:27:26,200 --> 00:27:30,239 I wanted to portray this but at the same time 273 00:27:30,400 --> 00:27:35,428 I wanted to get rid of its official concept as we knew it. 274 00:27:35,600 --> 00:27:44,759 I think the symbiosis of folk and modern art 275 00:27:44,920 --> 00:27:49,232 was best portrayed by Slovak surrealists who announced 276 00:27:49,400 --> 00:27:55,953 Janko Kral was their guru. 277 00:27:56,120 --> 00:28:03,356 The message of this nation's soul is hidden in Slovak ballads, songs 278 00:28:03,520 --> 00:28:07,308 and in their primary folk costumes. 279 00:28:07,480 --> 00:28:12,270 I wanted to respect these three columns when making Dragon. 280 00:28:12,440 --> 00:28:18,675 A real folk art is not as showy as presented on stages back then. 281 00:28:18,840 --> 00:28:27,236 There is a poor region which has the most beautiful ornament, 282 00:28:27,400 --> 00:28:31,313 sober, simple and eloquent. 283 00:28:31,480 --> 00:28:35,155 The richer the region, the more degenerated folk costume. 284 00:28:35,320 --> 00:28:41,031 I refused to use all ornaments with an exception of a red thread. 285 00:28:41,200 --> 00:28:46,797 The simplest Slovak folk costume is made of an ordinary white linen 286 00:28:46,960 --> 00:28:51,556 seamed by a red thread. 287 00:28:51,720 --> 00:29:06,795 After watching first dailies at Koliba I was totally desperate. 288 00:29:06,960 --> 00:29:10,236 It had nothing to do with what I'd attempted to make 289 00:29:10,400 --> 00:29:13,756 although Krajcovic created a perfect set, 290 00:29:13,920 --> 00:29:18,436 to me it seemed artificial, as if made of plaster. 291 00:29:18,600 --> 00:29:22,798 I was at my wit's end. 292 00:29:22,960 --> 00:29:29,559 I showed some scenes to Barabas and asked him what to do now. 293 00:29:29,720 --> 00:29:34,794 So we discussed this topic 294 00:29:34,960 --> 00:29:42,992 and I remembered The Sun in a Net and Szomolany's zoom lens thinking 295 00:29:43,160 --> 00:29:50,748 only zoom lens can help us focus on a human face and soul 296 00:29:50,920 --> 00:30:00,272 and neglect everything around or create an ordinary surrounding. 297 00:30:00,440 --> 00:30:06,470 We shot 90% of the film with the zoom lens 298 00:30:06,640 --> 00:30:14,638 and it helped us create quite a mysterious atmosphere. 299 00:30:17,040 --> 00:30:22,717 Casting a Czech actor into the leading role caused a scandal 300 00:30:22,880 --> 00:30:31,197 among Slovak actors because for some reason they required a Slovak 301 00:30:31,360 --> 00:30:35,717 as if a nationality could be visually captured. 302 00:30:35,880 --> 00:30:44,470 The whole story of Dragon is based on Dragon being a foreign element 303 00:30:44,640 --> 00:30:48,155 who does not belong to the local community. 304 00:30:48,320 --> 00:30:53,519 I told Valach: Your face blends perfectly with Slovak surroundings, 305 00:30:53,680 --> 00:30:58,435 I can't see any reason for him being pushed away by the others 306 00:30:58,600 --> 00:31:02,309 and I need a face which apparently doesn't come from the village 307 00:31:02,480 --> 00:31:06,029 so the locals have a reason to hate him. 308 00:31:06,200 --> 00:31:09,237 And that's how I got to cast Lukavsky. 309 00:31:14,920 --> 00:31:24,875 I asked Zelienka to compose something purely pagan 310 00:31:25,040 --> 00:31:29,830 and he asked me to give him some more details so I said: 311 00:31:30,000 --> 00:31:34,710 I'll lend you my recording of Stravinski's Oedipus Rex. 312 00:31:34,880 --> 00:31:45,233 Dragon should enter the scene as something dangerous, mysterious 313 00:31:45,400 --> 00:31:50,190 which tells you to be careful because here comes a magician. 314 00:31:50,360 --> 00:31:54,717 I think Zelienka is a congenial composer, 315 00:31:54,880 --> 00:32:04,118 he saw the rough cut once, went home and came with a score 316 00:32:04,280 --> 00:32:09,877 which just mesmerized me, this was exactly how I felt it. 317 00:32:10,040 --> 00:32:15,751 Without this score the film would be very dull 318 00:32:15,920 --> 00:32:19,276 but the music brings a tension from the beginning till the end. 319 00:32:42,680 --> 00:32:44,955 A story of powerful passions, strong characters 320 00:32:45,120 --> 00:32:49,113 with deep imagery and poetics, that is Marketa Lazarova, 321 00:32:49,280 --> 00:32:51,635 a literary work by Vladislav Vancura 322 00:32:51,800 --> 00:32:54,030 who would celebrate his 75th birthday this year. 323 00:32:58,680 --> 00:33:02,912 Our camera visited a camp of its feature colleague 324 00:33:03,080 --> 00:33:05,036 who is filming this story. 325 00:33:05,200 --> 00:33:06,599 The screenplay was written by Frantisek Pavlicek 326 00:33:06,760 --> 00:33:07,909 and director Frantisek Vlacil. 327 00:33:08,400 --> 00:33:14,111 Marketa Lazarova was perhaps the most distinct literary adaptation 328 00:33:14,280 --> 00:33:18,558 not only due to its demandingness and long-run preparations 329 00:33:18,720 --> 00:33:24,556 but because filmmakers managed to find a key to transform 330 00:33:24,720 --> 00:33:31,193 a unique literary work enriched with a beautiful language 331 00:33:31,360 --> 00:33:37,310 into a monumental visual piece of art. 332 00:33:37,480 --> 00:33:45,398 For sure it worked thanks to Vlacil who never studied filmmaking, 333 00:33:45,560 --> 00:33:55,151 he was an artist able to visualize the literary model. 334 00:33:55,320 --> 00:33:59,359 Also we mustn't omit Frantisek Pavlicek's contribution. 335 00:33:59,520 --> 00:34:03,149 Milan Kundera once said 336 00:34:03,320 --> 00:34:07,472 that Marketa Lazarova is a ready screenplay itself 337 00:34:07,640 --> 00:34:15,638 but it turned out to be wrong, the novel had to be rewritten. 338 00:34:15,800 --> 00:34:21,511 Vlacil did not plan to make a historical film 339 00:34:21,680 --> 00:34:27,630 he would speak about period films which is a more precise expression. 340 00:34:27,800 --> 00:34:32,191 Period in terms of describing period cycles, desires, 341 00:34:32,360 --> 00:34:34,920 or period twists of human mentality. 342 00:34:46,280 --> 00:34:49,716 It is a brand new concept of a historical film, 343 00:34:49,880 --> 00:34:58,390 very individualized, poetic, lyrical 344 00:34:59,880 --> 00:35:07,753 and extremely expressive even when it describes pain, suffering, hurt. 345 00:35:07,920 --> 00:35:12,914 Plus there is a concept of a clash between pagan and Christian view, 346 00:35:13,080 --> 00:35:15,230 or German and Czech element. 347 00:35:15,400 --> 00:35:19,916 We can spot some traces in Vancura's novel already 348 00:35:20,080 --> 00:35:23,197 but Vlacil truly underlined it. 349 00:35:24,880 --> 00:35:26,916 This film cannot be compared 350 00:35:27,080 --> 00:35:30,959 to any other in the history of the Czech cinematography. 351 00:35:32,960 --> 00:35:33,790 Stand up! 352 00:35:35,880 --> 00:35:37,632 Let him stand. 353 00:35:43,040 --> 00:35:50,958 Except making costumes which I personally value the most, 354 00:35:51,120 --> 00:35:56,433 I was also in charge of setting up the whole production design. 355 00:35:56,600 --> 00:36:05,190 I have to say I managed to create a very unique Czech film 356 00:36:05,360 --> 00:36:12,232 because I invited awesome artists to take part in this project. 357 00:36:12,400 --> 00:36:16,075 Zbynek Sekal made the crucifix, 358 00:36:16,240 --> 00:36:20,028 Koblasa made milestones by the royal roads, 359 00:36:20,200 --> 00:36:24,557 Vozinjak made the amulet tree. 360 00:36:38,280 --> 00:36:42,159 Vlacil never talked to me too much, 361 00:36:42,320 --> 00:36:47,314 for the first half a year he'd just check up on me if I was in bed, 362 00:36:47,480 --> 00:36:53,112 he'd sit on a chair next to me and talk about 13th century, 363 00:36:53,280 --> 00:36:56,989 about king Premysl Otakar II, 364 00:36:57,160 --> 00:37:01,233 he'd retell me the whole royal story that had never been shot. 365 00:37:01,400 --> 00:37:07,839 Sometimes he'd show me his script drawn picture by picture, 366 00:37:08,000 --> 00:37:11,675 I was represented by a mane of hair with a nose sticking out. 367 00:37:11,840 --> 00:37:17,597 Even today I am able to tell historians many interesting things 368 00:37:17,760 --> 00:37:20,797 about 13th century. 369 00:37:20,960 --> 00:37:26,239 We would wear costumes as often as possible. 370 00:37:26,400 --> 00:37:33,670 Theodor Pistek was upset because the costumes were hand-made, 371 00:37:33,840 --> 00:37:36,070 I wore a cap made of a snake skin. 372 00:37:36,240 --> 00:37:40,916 We actually inhabited the costumes and the whole set 373 00:37:41,080 --> 00:37:46,473 so when we got back to a civil reality, it felt weird 374 00:37:46,640 --> 00:37:52,476 because we belonged to 13th century not to 20th century. 375 00:37:52,640 --> 00:37:55,108 You shall be standing here 376 00:37:55,280 --> 00:37:59,717 looking into your brother's face until the moment he dies 377 00:38:02,040 --> 00:38:04,190 and then you shall be buried alongside him. 378 00:38:04,360 --> 00:38:12,995 Vlacil essentially changed a historical film genre 379 00:38:13,160 --> 00:38:19,633 by snipping it off 19th century. 380 00:38:19,800 --> 00:38:27,912 The historical genre represented by Vavra or Krska had been developing 381 00:38:28,080 --> 00:38:35,475 in accordance with a paradigm 382 00:38:35,640 --> 00:38:40,919 defined by the revivalist movement in 19the century. 383 00:38:41,080 --> 00:38:43,913 It picks up on graphic motives, 384 00:38:44,080 --> 00:38:48,278 on interpretations of social groups or individual characters. 385 00:38:48,440 --> 00:38:52,069 Suddenly here comes Vlacil and turns it all upside down. 386 00:39:10,760 --> 00:39:16,278 We should also mention other people who worked on this film, 387 00:39:16,440 --> 00:39:21,833 like cameraman Bedrich Batka, or composer Zdenek Liska. 388 00:39:22,000 --> 00:39:29,634 They all contributed to the intense result, visual as well as sound. 389 00:39:29,800 --> 00:39:37,229 Valley of the Bees was perhaps a bit unjustly overshadowed by Marketa. 390 00:39:37,400 --> 00:39:40,278 It was written by Vladimir Korner 391 00:39:40,440 --> 00:39:47,312 who made use of some props from Marketa Lazarova set. 392 00:39:47,480 --> 00:39:53,635 A new creative tandem Vlacil Korner was born here, 393 00:39:53,800 --> 00:39:58,271 together they made another excellent film Adelheid 394 00:39:58,440 --> 00:40:01,000 which unfortunately also ended up in a vault. 395 00:40:03,800 --> 00:40:10,831 I am not brave enough to watch you fall down, turn into tinder and pus. 396 00:40:20,400 --> 00:40:23,233 I have come to make you my judge. 397 00:40:27,840 --> 00:40:34,075 This current process which attempts to democratize our life 398 00:40:34,240 --> 00:40:42,477 has not come from comrades from the Presidium of the Communist Party 399 00:40:42,640 --> 00:40:46,997 but from the members of the Central Committee, 400 00:40:47,160 --> 00:40:51,836 one of them was from Prague, other one from Brno, from some village, 401 00:40:52,000 --> 00:40:55,356 other one was from some factory and they have done so independently. 402 00:40:55,520 --> 00:40:58,956 A political liberalization in 1968 403 00:40:59,120 --> 00:41:04,069 opened the door for Karel Vachek's feature documentary. 404 00:41:04,240 --> 00:41:11,590 As a student he was a chronic complainer and later he paid for it. 405 00:41:11,760 --> 00:41:17,710 His graduation film Moravian Hellas was made in a non-traditional way 406 00:41:17,880 --> 00:41:22,317 and later he used this method 407 00:41:22,480 --> 00:41:27,634 when making a documentary about a presidential election in 1968, 408 00:41:27,800 --> 00:41:37,471 a merciless portrayal of adored leaders of the Prague Spring. 409 00:41:37,640 --> 00:41:43,988 The transition must have been tough for comrade Novotny but I think 410 00:41:44,160 --> 00:41:48,039 that as a real politician he should have come to this opinion earlier. 411 00:41:48,200 --> 00:41:49,918 Why didn't he do it? 412 00:41:50,080 --> 00:41:59,955 Because of his disaffection with life, with evaluation of reality, 413 00:42:00,120 --> 00:42:06,878 it convinced him that he might have been done wrong. 414 00:42:07,040 --> 00:42:10,953 I met Borovicka on the street, it was the spring and I asked him: 415 00:42:11,120 --> 00:42:14,829 Could I make a film? 416 00:42:15,000 --> 00:42:17,468 And he said: Come tomorrow, you'll get a camera. 417 00:42:19,400 --> 00:42:25,873 The atmosphere was very similar to the one after 1989. 418 00:42:26,040 --> 00:42:32,275 Those in charge were so new 419 00:42:32,440 --> 00:42:40,120 you could just approach them with a smile and it scared them. 420 00:42:40,280 --> 00:42:49,359 They would do anything for a friend who came to talk to them. 421 00:42:49,520 --> 00:42:59,668 And once you approached them with a positive attitude which I did 422 00:42:59,840 --> 00:43:02,434 they'd help you get to anybody you wished to meet. 423 00:43:02,600 --> 00:43:04,989 I caught Dubcek on the street, 424 00:43:05,160 --> 00:43:08,470 we were waiting for him in front of the Central Committee building 425 00:43:08,640 --> 00:43:13,668 and he invited us in instead of some French TV. 426 00:43:13,840 --> 00:43:18,914 I'm not sure. We're having lunch now and then we'll arrange it. 427 00:43:19,080 --> 00:43:22,675 I have to check the list of invited comrades 428 00:43:22,840 --> 00:43:31,839 because we're planning a plenary of the Communist Central Committee. 429 00:43:32,000 --> 00:43:37,677 - We'll wait for you here then. - Please, do. 430 00:43:39,560 --> 00:43:46,636 In that time they got 16mm cameras, recorders which did not hum 431 00:43:46,800 --> 00:43:56,391 so Novotny and others felt good when being recorded at the Castle. 432 00:43:56,560 --> 00:44:01,509 That's how 16mm cameras appeared in the Czech Republic. 433 00:44:01,680 --> 00:44:05,753 Suddenly I see Ort-Snep running around the chambers with a camera 434 00:44:05,920 --> 00:44:09,959 and it felt like a miracle. We wanted to make the most of it, 435 00:44:10,120 --> 00:44:14,159 plus we got to use directional microphones. 436 00:44:14,320 --> 00:44:19,110 - What distance can it record? - Depends on the surrounding. 437 00:44:19,280 --> 00:44:31,033 Up to 10 meters. If he walks like 10 meters behind a guy on a street. 438 00:44:35,440 --> 00:44:38,398 Where was it made? I see. 439 00:44:41,400 --> 00:44:44,278 From car to car? No, it can't. 440 00:44:44,440 --> 00:44:48,877 Before the shooting I met Passer 441 00:44:49,040 --> 00:44:53,909 and he said: You've got to get there even if it was through a keyhole. 442 00:44:54,080 --> 00:44:59,074 And I remembered the keyhole when they told us to leave 443 00:44:59,240 --> 00:45:03,791 and said to the soundman: Get the mike to a keyhole! 444 00:45:04,200 --> 00:45:12,710 Let's apologize for all the processes with subversive centres, 445 00:45:12,880 --> 00:45:19,228 but we'll proudly acknowledge: 446 00:45:19,760 --> 00:45:24,550 We mustn't forget to mention cameraman Josef Ort-Snep, 447 00:45:24,720 --> 00:45:28,315 Vachek's close colleague 448 00:45:28,480 --> 00:45:35,477 who was capable of being right in the middle of events 449 00:45:35,640 --> 00:45:39,519 and thanks to him we see things in the film the way they are. 450 00:45:39,840 --> 00:45:44,038 The declaration of workers in culture published yesterday, 451 00:45:44,200 --> 00:45:49,638 especially as concerns the characteristics 452 00:45:49,800 --> 00:45:58,230 and the range of features typical of the president of the state, 453 00:45:58,400 --> 00:46:03,394 about how they oppose a soldier as the head of the state. 454 00:46:03,560 --> 00:46:06,233 I discern shots that shine. 455 00:46:06,400 --> 00:46:13,033 Then I take them out and go on chronologically like an idiot, 456 00:46:13,200 --> 00:46:18,991 and when I cannot keep chronology any longer I make a kind of charade. 457 00:46:19,160 --> 00:46:22,152 There's nothing else you can do. 458 00:46:22,320 --> 00:46:28,350 Okay, we had a bad start, so the event at the end- 459 00:46:28,520 --> 00:46:31,318 novelist often do this- 460 00:46:31,480 --> 00:46:35,359 the key event that Svoboda had been elected we put in the beginning, 461 00:46:35,520 --> 00:46:38,398 he was elected there and only then we set the election in motion. 462 00:46:38,560 --> 00:46:41,791 Suddenly it got the rhythm and we got the ball rolling. 463 00:46:41,960 --> 00:46:43,712 More or less chronologically. 464 00:46:44,360 --> 00:46:47,591 They always listen to what MPs are talking about. 465 00:46:47,760 --> 00:46:50,115 That's good. That's all I have. 466 00:46:53,080 --> 00:46:58,632 Vachek was preparing some projects between Hellas and Affinities, 467 00:46:58,800 --> 00:47:01,553 one of them was a feature film 468 00:47:01,720 --> 00:47:05,349 but none of the projects got to be carried out eventually. 469 00:47:05,520 --> 00:47:15,350 Surely it was because of his unconventional view of reality. 470 00:47:15,520 --> 00:47:23,200 Barrandov management as well as the communist nomenclature 471 00:47:23,360 --> 00:47:28,912 were reluctantly willing to accept Forman or Chytilova, 472 00:47:29,080 --> 00:47:36,350 but Vachek's directive film expression 473 00:47:36,520 --> 00:47:45,997 based on a grotesque and ironic distance was unacceptable. 474 00:47:46,160 --> 00:47:55,558 I pledge allegiance to the Czechoslovak Socialist Republic 475 00:47:55,720 --> 00:47:57,438 and matter of socialism. 476 00:47:58,320 --> 00:48:01,710 I shall perform my office in the interest of all the people. 477 00:48:02,440 --> 00:48:08,436 I shall attend to benefit of our republic, observe its Constitution 478 00:48:08,600 --> 00:48:12,752 and other laws of our socialist state. 479 00:48:27,120 --> 00:48:32,148 Another "lonely runner" of the New Wave was Juraj Herz. 480 00:48:32,320 --> 00:48:37,599 Unlike his colleagues he studied at DAMU, not at FAMU. 481 00:48:37,760 --> 00:48:41,070 One of his classmates was Jan Svankmajer 482 00:48:41,240 --> 00:48:47,429 and they shared an affection for broadside ballads and its poetics, 483 00:48:47,600 --> 00:48:50,194 horror stories, old freak shows 484 00:48:50,360 --> 00:48:55,514 and it was all reflected in Herz's short film The Junk Shop 485 00:48:55,680 --> 00:49:01,437 and later he used it in his most important film of the sixties, 486 00:49:01,600 --> 00:49:06,754 The Cremator based on a book by Ladislav Fuks. 487 00:49:07,320 --> 00:49:14,351 Gentle, 17 years ago we met here on this blessed place. 488 00:49:15,160 --> 00:49:19,233 Things have not changed at all, perhaps except the leopard here. 489 00:49:21,240 --> 00:49:24,789 The late one must have been torn out of his animal fetters 490 00:49:24,960 --> 00:49:27,758 by the kind Mother Nature. 491 00:49:29,240 --> 00:49:38,353 Me, Fuks and Mrs Kalabova used to meet once or twice a week 492 00:49:38,520 --> 00:49:42,115 for two years in cafe Slavia, 493 00:49:42,280 --> 00:49:47,308 discussing the script piece by piece. 494 00:49:47,480 --> 00:49:50,517 I'd say what I wanted and he would rewrite it 495 00:49:50,680 --> 00:49:53,672 and so the script slowly developed. 496 00:49:53,840 --> 00:49:58,356 We were actually changing the whole novel this way 497 00:49:58,520 --> 00:50:06,552 and our kind dramaturgist Kalabova almost never said a word 498 00:50:06,720 --> 00:50:10,633 but when she did speak out, she'd say something important. 499 00:50:10,800 --> 00:50:14,634 - What is this? - You aren't scared, are you? 500 00:50:14,800 --> 00:50:17,837 And this is Plajeaux, the mass murderer. 501 00:50:19,400 --> 00:50:22,631 He would go murdering every day and every night. 502 00:50:22,800 --> 00:50:29,148 When preparing The Cremator I got to know Sartre's work. 503 00:50:29,320 --> 00:50:32,118 Back then only the first two parts were available. 504 00:50:32,280 --> 00:50:36,512 The first part is written in a very conventional way, 505 00:50:36,680 --> 00:50:39,990 the second part looks like this: 506 00:50:43,760 --> 00:50:47,878 Charles came to a window, took his cigarette, threw it out, 507 00:50:48,040 --> 00:50:55,116 turned to Marie drinking her coffee and told her this and this. 508 00:50:55,280 --> 00:51:02,038 But Charles was in Paris while Marie was actually in Madrid. 509 00:51:02,200 --> 00:51:05,829 Something like this. 510 00:51:06,000 --> 00:51:13,076 And I loved the blending within one sentence 511 00:51:13,240 --> 00:51:17,233 and thought this could be used in a film as well. 512 00:51:17,400 --> 00:51:26,638 When writing a technical screenplay I blended several scenes, 513 00:51:26,800 --> 00:51:29,314 I mean one scene starts somewhere 514 00:51:29,480 --> 00:51:31,994 but it actually belongs to the next scene, 515 00:51:32,160 --> 00:51:35,994 the same goes for dialogues etc. 516 00:51:36,560 --> 00:51:42,351 You'e never seen boxing, me neither because I find boxing too rough. 517 00:51:44,800 --> 00:51:46,631 Well, I can't wait. 518 00:51:51,400 --> 00:51:54,597 One, two, three. 519 00:51:54,760 --> 00:51:56,876 So you know what a real masculine sport looks like. 520 00:51:57,040 --> 00:51:59,395 But I've always considered boxing a rough sport. 521 00:51:59,560 --> 00:52:02,677 Or, let's say hard but it's alright. We need strong brave men. 522 00:52:02,840 --> 00:52:05,354 Boxing is a martial art. Fist to fist. 523 00:52:05,520 --> 00:52:08,114 He has always said: There were two options. 524 00:52:08,280 --> 00:52:11,955 Either a color version without him or a black and white one with him. 525 00:52:12,120 --> 00:52:14,350 Eventually he picked me so it was black and white. 526 00:52:14,520 --> 00:52:17,353 I personally hate color 527 00:52:17,520 --> 00:52:24,676 because it feels as if you printed texts in books in color, 528 00:52:24,840 --> 00:52:31,075 a blue sky, green pastures: 529 00:52:31,240 --> 00:52:35,597 The same goes for a film, 530 00:52:35,760 --> 00:52:42,438 I think a viewer should get a chance to color it himself, 531 00:52:42,600 --> 00:52:45,592 or he shouldn't be distracted from the story by some colors. 532 00:52:45,760 --> 00:52:48,718 This is a mechanism for a rapid cremation 533 00:52:48,880 --> 00:52:51,189 of a bigger amount of people. 534 00:52:51,360 --> 00:52:57,356 It helps many souls free themselves from fetters of this existence 535 00:52:57,520 --> 00:53:02,514 and fly up into the space and dissolve in the ether. 536 00:53:04,560 --> 00:53:08,394 I think this is a big opportunity because in my crematorium 537 00:53:08,560 --> 00:53:11,597 it takes 75 minutes to transform a corpse into a pure ash 538 00:53:11,760 --> 00:53:13,239 and each corpse has its own cremator. 539 00:53:13,400 --> 00:53:21,876 Fuks was convincing me to cast Mr Somr for the lead role 540 00:53:22,040 --> 00:53:27,273 and I said Mr Somr is a great actor but he is not Kopfrkingl. 541 00:53:27,440 --> 00:53:30,034 Hrusinsky is Kopfrkingl. 542 00:53:30,200 --> 00:53:34,591 Back then he'd sit every night in Evropa pub, drinking beer 543 00:53:34,760 --> 00:53:41,279 and I'd go drink with them so once I gave him the script there 544 00:53:41,440 --> 00:53:44,512 and after reading it he said: There's nothing for me to play. 545 00:53:44,680 --> 00:53:50,994 I kept convincing him and as I got probably too annoying 546 00:53:51,160 --> 00:53:55,517 and he wanted to drink his beer peacefully, eventually he said yes. 547 00:53:55,680 --> 00:53:59,434 He came to the shooting set, 548 00:53:59,600 --> 00:54:04,833 and the first three days he was really grumpy 549 00:54:05,000 --> 00:54:08,959 because we were taking only short shots in those days. 550 00:54:09,120 --> 00:54:13,511 Then he realized that there actually might be something to play there, 551 00:54:13,680 --> 00:54:20,438 his grumpiness turned into a good mood, we became friends 552 00:54:20,600 --> 00:54:28,632 and as really good friends we eventually finished the film. 553 00:54:28,800 --> 00:54:38,118 I was used to discussing score with my composer second by second, 554 00:54:38,280 --> 00:54:43,718 with Liska it was the same, he just kept nodding 555 00:54:43,880 --> 00:54:52,754 and as he was leaving he said: Should it be spooky or nice? 556 00:54:52,920 --> 00:55:00,110 And I said: I'm spooky enough, be kind, please. 557 00:55:00,280 --> 00:55:03,158 So they were recording the score 558 00:55:03,320 --> 00:55:05,880 and the music played where I didn't want it to 559 00:55:06,040 --> 00:55:08,349 and other way around, 560 00:55:08,520 --> 00:55:13,071 he added some waltz to a murder scene, it was awesome. 561 00:55:13,240 --> 00:55:15,151 He was an excellent dramaturgist. 562 00:55:23,160 --> 00:55:28,996 In the end the main character goes completely nuts 563 00:55:29,160 --> 00:55:35,156 and leaves for Tibet where he plans to manufacture huge cremators. 564 00:55:40,760 --> 00:55:44,116 We took some new shots with Standa, the cameraman. 565 00:55:44,280 --> 00:55:49,718 We were shooting in cafe Repre by the huge art deco windows 566 00:55:49,880 --> 00:55:53,589 and behind those windows there were Russian tanks. 567 00:55:53,760 --> 00:56:00,029 In the scene this old lady asks the young girl: 568 00:56:00,200 --> 00:56:03,636 What happened to Mr Kopfrkingl? 569 00:56:03,800 --> 00:56:06,519 And I moved the camera a little 570 00:56:06,680 --> 00:56:09,877 and the women were replaced by the tanks. 571 00:56:10,040 --> 00:56:14,636 By means of a long focus 572 00:56:14,800 --> 00:56:22,798 we took a long shot of angry, grayish, depressed people, 573 00:56:22,960 --> 00:56:26,635 tanks are passing them by and suddenly among all the people 574 00:56:26,800 --> 00:56:28,756 there pops out a smiling face. 575 00:56:29,720 --> 00:56:32,917 Kopfrkingl is coming back with the Soviet Army. 576 00:56:33,080 --> 00:56:37,596 When our manager saw this he almost fell down his chair 577 00:56:37,760 --> 00:56:44,154 and said: This must be cut out. 578 00:56:44,320 --> 00:56:49,314 He cut it out and said he would put it into a vault. 579 00:56:49,480 --> 00:56:57,319 The film was quickly banned anyway but this piece got lost. 580 00:57:02,240 --> 00:57:06,313 There is a lot of work ahead of you. For the nation and mankind. 581 00:57:12,000 --> 00:57:14,275 I'm glad you have come. 582 00:57:15,080 --> 00:57:16,991 Let me step right among you. 583 00:57:28,600 --> 00:57:34,232 Vihanova belongs to belated debutants of the sixties. 584 00:57:34,400 --> 00:57:38,518 Her film Squandered Sunday was made in 1969 585 00:57:38,680 --> 00:57:44,312 although she had made interesting films already as a student, 586 00:57:44,480 --> 00:57:47,517 for example Fugue on Black Keys 587 00:57:47,680 --> 00:57:50,797 a story about covert racism in the Czech society. 588 00:57:50,960 --> 00:57:52,473 Strangely enough she, a woman, 589 00:57:52,640 --> 00:57:55,677 situated her debut film based on a novel by Jiri Krenek 590 00:57:55,840 --> 00:57:56,829 into a military settings. 591 00:57:57,000 --> 00:58:00,515 But the main theme of a moral decay of an army officer 592 00:58:00,680 --> 00:58:05,879 was described as a decay of human mentality as such 593 00:58:06,040 --> 00:58:07,871 and a feeling of estrangement 594 00:58:08,040 --> 00:58:11,476 in the middle of a mentally emptied society. 595 00:58:11,640 --> 00:58:12,834 Anything you don't understand? 596 00:58:17,720 --> 00:58:20,792 - Me? - Yes, you. 597 00:58:21,360 --> 00:58:23,555 I understand everything, lieutenant. 598 00:58:26,440 --> 00:58:30,035 Even minister's order concerning upgrading your knowledge of math? 599 00:58:33,360 --> 00:58:35,635 I want you to report in my office first thing on Monday morning. 600 00:58:37,960 --> 00:58:39,871 I want you to report in my office first thing on Monday morning. 601 00:58:40,920 --> 00:58:44,230 On Monday I have an army shooting competition, lieutenant. 602 00:58:44,400 --> 00:58:48,712 Although the main character is a soldier I figured 603 00:58:48,880 --> 00:58:51,633 the problem concerns all humans 604 00:58:51,800 --> 00:58:59,593 even though in this case a military mindset is determining. 605 00:58:59,760 --> 00:59:04,834 However, the soldier's problem could happen to anybody, 606 00:59:05,000 --> 00:59:08,231 it would just perhaps lack the extreme conclusion. 607 00:59:08,400 --> 00:59:18,514 Krenek was a professional soldier and his colleague did shoot himself. 608 00:59:22,240 --> 00:59:24,515 What were you doing in a military area? 609 00:59:24,680 --> 00:59:29,435 - We weren't in a military area. - Sure we weren't 610 00:59:37,240 --> 00:59:38,309 Let's go, ladies. 611 00:59:41,200 --> 00:59:46,672 Keep the bullshit to yourselves and kindly answer my questions. 612 00:59:49,200 --> 00:59:56,197 Let me warn you that whatever you say can be used against you. 613 00:59:56,360 --> 01:00:02,037 This film was stylized into a blunt black and white picture, 614 01:00:02,200 --> 01:00:13,634 full of absurd situations and random writings. 615 01:00:13,800 --> 01:00:19,079 I knew we would inhabit the Josefov quarter with old hags, 616 01:00:19,240 --> 01:00:28,638 gypsies, stray dogs and military uniforms, nothing else. 617 01:00:28,800 --> 01:00:34,909 Except a few erotic elements represented by those young girls 618 01:00:35,080 --> 01:00:43,988 there was an isolated, strange and literally necrotizing world. 619 01:00:44,160 --> 01:00:52,158 There is the leitmotif of a gypsy and the dog pawing in a sand 620 01:00:52,320 --> 01:00:55,437 and it repeats again and again. 621 01:00:55,600 --> 01:01:01,197 The situation in Josefov was worse than the previous year, 622 01:01:01,360 --> 01:01:09,631 due to the Russians we had a limited access to certain places. 623 01:01:09,800 --> 01:01:19,118 Half of the soldiers were Russian so the atmosphere was pretty tense. 624 01:01:19,280 --> 01:01:26,311 But I have to say that our soldiers were very open and helpful. 625 01:01:28,960 --> 01:01:31,793 Did you just cut your hand, Mr Arnost? 626 01:01:34,960 --> 01:01:41,991 Wow, look how well you speak. Say Black bug's blood. 627 01:01:42,560 --> 01:01:48,112 Black bug's blood, black bug's blood. 628 01:01:48,560 --> 01:01:51,472 There is this scene 629 01:01:51,640 --> 01:01:54,279 where the lieutenant walks down the stairs into a cellar, 630 01:01:54,440 --> 01:01:57,113 he turns the light on and starts shooting at rats. 631 01:01:57,280 --> 01:02:00,955 They brought the giant rats from the Prague sewerage, 632 01:02:01,120 --> 01:02:03,554 they were crawling up walls 633 01:02:03,720 --> 01:02:09,989 and one of them was sitting some three meters from me 634 01:02:10,160 --> 01:02:14,995 on a pile of a coal dust, observing me with her red eyes. 635 01:02:15,160 --> 01:02:18,709 I aimed at her, shot and missed! 636 01:02:18,880 --> 01:02:25,718 And the moment the bullet just zoomed past its nose, 637 01:02:25,880 --> 01:02:28,519 the rat jumped up and straight into my face. 638 01:02:28,680 --> 01:02:35,358 Fortunately I put the gun here and she gnawed into its handle. 639 01:02:35,520 --> 01:02:38,432 So I shook it down killed it with the gun. 640 01:02:40,800 --> 01:02:48,309 We finished the copy of the film by the end of 1969, 641 01:02:48,480 --> 01:02:57,309 Prochazka invited some people, Mr Hoger, Mr Tregr, 642 01:02:57,480 --> 01:03:07,151 I also invited some people and they all praised the film. 643 01:03:07,320 --> 01:03:16,353 I'm not sure now who exactly told me about the ban, 644 01:03:16,520 --> 01:03:20,832 I think it was Prochazka who said it was banned from distribution. 645 01:03:21,000 --> 01:03:31,558 Somebody claimed that the negative approach to life we present 646 01:03:31,720 --> 01:03:37,511 cannot be shown to wide public. 647 01:03:37,680 --> 01:03:43,676 Now say Black bug's blood but silently so no one can hear us. 648 01:03:44,480 --> 01:03:46,436 Black bug's blood. 649 01:03:46,600 --> 01:03:52,755 - And now even quieter. - Black bug's blood. 650 01:04:19,320 --> 01:04:23,950 Hynek Bocan started as an assistant of older directors 651 01:04:24,120 --> 01:04:25,997 and later in his own films 652 01:04:26,160 --> 01:04:30,676 he always attempted to create an unsystematic characterization 653 01:04:30,840 --> 01:04:33,229 of the Czech nation's nature. 654 01:04:33,400 --> 01:04:37,678 His debut was Kundera's adaptation Nobody Will Laugh, 655 01:04:37,840 --> 01:04:41,515 followed by Private Torment based on a novel by Paral 656 01:04:41,680 --> 01:04:48,358 and then Honor and Glory based on Karel Michal's novel. 657 01:04:48,520 --> 01:04:55,119 In 1968 he got to read The Decoy by Karel Misar 658 01:04:55,280 --> 01:05:01,549 and turned it into a film which is even today considered brutal. 659 01:05:02,520 --> 01:05:07,799 The story once again tells us about the situation in our society, 660 01:05:07,960 --> 01:05:13,114 this time on the background of a reformatory. 661 01:05:13,280 --> 01:05:17,671 Scepticism and brutality of relationships in the institute, 662 01:05:17,840 --> 01:05:19,990 not only between inmates 663 01:05:20,160 --> 01:05:26,474 but also between instructors and the young delinquents, 664 01:05:26,640 --> 01:05:33,239 it metaphorically describes relationships within our society 665 01:05:33,400 --> 01:05:36,073 in general. 666 01:05:38,080 --> 01:05:43,200 We went shooting locations to Jezeri 667 01:05:43,360 --> 01:05:50,630 when general manager Harnach called our production manager 668 01:05:50,800 --> 01:05:55,715 and said: Mr Beranek, this film is a nonsense, it won't be approved, 669 01:05:55,880 --> 01:05:59,190 let's call it off while we can. 670 01:05:59,360 --> 01:06:05,879 And Beranek's reaction was really brave: We're just about to wrap up. 671 01:06:06,040 --> 01:06:11,478 In fact, we had had only two days of work. But Harnach let it go. 672 01:06:33,720 --> 01:06:36,518 Beranek arrived to Jezeri and told us about it 673 01:06:36,680 --> 01:06:41,674 so we were sitting there and I said: This is a big chance. 674 01:06:41,840 --> 01:06:49,110 We can actually make a film without any restrictions 675 01:06:49,280 --> 01:06:58,473 And so we shot this paraphrase of the Soviet army in Prague. 676 01:06:58,640 --> 01:07:01,757 We knew it wouldn't be approved anyway. 677 01:07:01,920 --> 01:07:04,559 Still it caught me by surprise. 678 01:07:04,720 --> 01:07:09,874 We had to modify 53 out of 90 scenes. 679 01:07:10,040 --> 01:07:17,116 A strange thing was that it didn't really change the film. 680 01:07:17,280 --> 01:07:23,753 Its message stayed the same, a prototypical look at society. 681 01:07:40,600 --> 01:07:47,119 As for casting, it used to be director's business back then. 682 01:07:47,280 --> 01:07:52,274 There were no casting studios. 683 01:07:52,440 --> 01:07:57,992 We'd give auditions for non-actors 684 01:07:58,160 --> 01:08:02,358 but we'd even travel to see mining apprentices 685 01:08:02,520 --> 01:08:09,198 because ads probably wouldn't have been of much help. 686 01:08:33,680 --> 01:08:35,989 Jirka Samal was the director of photography here. 687 01:08:36,160 --> 01:08:41,188 Technique-wise it was a pretty interesting work 688 01:08:41,360 --> 01:08:48,789 because we'd gradually use more and more coarse grain 689 01:08:48,960 --> 01:08:56,389 and the final quarter shows the most coarse image. 690 01:08:56,560 --> 01:09:06,470 A viewer might not realize this but as the image changes 691 01:09:06,640 --> 01:09:11,509 it brings a documentary-like truthfulness into the film. 692 01:09:11,680 --> 01:09:15,195 We used a handycam a lot, it was quite unique back then 693 01:09:15,360 --> 01:09:19,239 but Samal knew how to work it, 694 01:09:19,400 --> 01:09:22,233 the locations were real 695 01:09:22,400 --> 01:09:30,512 so the whole thing turned out to be almost naturalistic. 696 01:09:30,680 --> 01:09:35,959 There was this chairman of the Barrandov communists 697 01:09:36,120 --> 01:09:40,352 who hated me for that and once he told me: 698 01:09:40,520 --> 01:09:47,551 I used to be a commissioner of all prisons in the 50's 699 01:09:47,720 --> 01:09:51,429 but none of them was as awful as that reformatory of yours. 700 01:09:51,600 --> 01:09:56,037 But he also said: But these rebellions and stuff, 701 01:09:56,200 --> 01:09:58,794 could you make some sequences out of it? 702 01:09:58,960 --> 01:10:03,078 We'd screen it in reformatories 703 01:10:03,240 --> 01:10:07,438 not for children but for the staff. It's so edifying. 704 01:10:11,400 --> 01:10:18,511 Bocan's The Decoy was actually finished as late as in 1990 705 01:10:18,680 --> 01:10:23,674 when they made a post dubbing. The same fate met other films, 706 01:10:23,840 --> 01:10:29,870 Balada's Ark of Fools, or Vihanova's Squandered Sunday. 707 01:10:30,040 --> 01:10:37,958 All these films were locked in a vault semi-finished 708 01:10:38,120 --> 01:10:43,399 and final works were done some twenty years later. 709 01:10:57,680 --> 01:11:02,356 Evald Schorm was considered the great thinker of the New Wave 710 01:11:02,520 --> 01:11:06,991 and Pavel Juracek was its screenwriting star. 711 01:11:07,160 --> 01:11:13,952 There may be a hidden line of his screenwriting co-operations 712 01:11:14,120 --> 01:11:20,150 but already in 1962 he started working on a script called Gulliver 713 01:11:20,320 --> 01:11:23,198 inspired by Gulliver's Travels 714 01:11:23,360 --> 01:11:27,478 and it developed into a film called A Case for a Rookie Hangman. 715 01:11:38,000 --> 01:11:44,075 When we look at this last Juraceks film 716 01:11:44,240 --> 01:11:49,360 where excellent actor Kostelka 717 01:11:49,520 --> 01:11:55,197 in the lead role passes through a tunnel into his subconscience 718 01:11:55,360 --> 01:11:59,672 where he meets all the characters who haunted also writer Juracek 719 01:11:59,840 --> 01:12:02,638 we can see this is about twinges of conscience. 720 01:12:02,800 --> 01:12:09,114 Again there appears an Escherian motif, a floor which disappears, 721 01:12:09,280 --> 01:12:14,832 worlds, spaces and times blending. 722 01:12:15,000 --> 01:12:23,396 A real world, half a meter above another world which is not real. 723 01:12:23,560 --> 01:12:28,588 Of course it is also a wonderful allegory of a government 724 01:12:28,760 --> 01:12:31,752 which is totally separated from ordinary people, 725 01:12:31,920 --> 01:12:35,595 presenting a view of what a normalization could mean. 726 01:12:35,760 --> 01:12:38,479 In this sense the film is almost prophetic. 727 01:12:39,160 --> 01:12:41,549 Each of us has his own Mrs Muller 728 01:12:42,520 --> 01:12:45,114 whose light used to shine on us in the beginning. 729 01:12:47,840 --> 01:12:56,191 I said: Good evening, Mr Muller, it is me, Lemuel. Lemuel Gulliver. 730 01:12:57,040 --> 01:12:58,792 Lemuel Gulliver from Dlouha Street. 731 01:13:00,160 --> 01:13:01,229 But it wasn't Mr Muller. 732 01:13:01,400 --> 01:13:05,757 What I appreciate most is the very first chapter 733 01:13:05,920 --> 01:13:11,597 where he actually paraphrased 734 01:13:11,760 --> 01:13:15,958 and set Swift's work into the Czech context 735 01:13:16,120 --> 01:13:19,112 and at the same time he made use of his knowledge 736 01:13:19,280 --> 01:13:22,033 of Jung's depth psychology 737 01:13:22,200 --> 01:13:29,754 because the hero's descent towards himself is very deep 738 01:13:29,920 --> 01:13:35,597 in the sense of using details from a psychological field 739 01:13:35,760 --> 01:13:41,278 like symbols, objects, or even a description of a landscape. 740 01:13:41,440 --> 01:13:46,673 I'm sorry but if you're silent because of me 741 01:13:50,560 --> 01:13:54,235 Gentlemen, you must understand 742 01:14:01,840 --> 01:14:06,118 I know Pavel really suffered, he couldn't sleep, 743 01:14:06,280 --> 01:14:12,230 bringing this film to the world was like a real labor pain for him. 744 01:14:12,400 --> 01:14:16,359 But he was well prepared and so responsible 745 01:14:16,520 --> 01:14:20,433 he would never come to a set and say I'm not ready to work. 746 01:14:20,600 --> 01:14:24,559 As a writer and a director in one 747 01:14:24,720 --> 01:14:32,991 he made it easy for a production manager to sort out problems 748 01:14:33,160 --> 01:14:38,439 because Juracek would take a break 749 01:14:38,600 --> 01:14:41,876 and in half an hour he would rewrite the whole scene, 750 01:14:42,040 --> 01:14:43,678 not only with regards to weather 751 01:14:43,840 --> 01:14:51,349 but often this new version was even better than the previous one. 752 01:14:51,520 --> 01:14:55,593 Good day, professor. I've come to ask you about a dream. 753 01:14:55,760 --> 01:15:00,914 I dreamt Marketa drowned because I stole a mug full of money. 754 01:15:01,080 --> 01:15:03,469 I dreamt I was left all alone in this world 755 01:15:03,640 --> 01:15:05,198 and met a full dressed hare. 756 01:15:06,040 --> 01:15:10,795 And professor, I killed this hare. 757 01:15:13,840 --> 01:15:20,359 Cameraman Kalis was very skilled 758 01:15:20,520 --> 01:15:28,313 and I think he helped Juracek a great deal with his technique 759 01:15:28,480 --> 01:15:34,999 because Juracek's strong point was writing, not a camera work. 760 01:15:35,960 --> 01:15:38,349 - What is your name? - Lemuel Gulliver. 761 01:15:38,520 --> 01:15:40,397 Your name is Oskar. 762 01:15:46,560 --> 01:15:47,470 Read this! 763 01:15:49,800 --> 01:15:54,999 For Oskar the hare's loyal service, Prince Munody. 764 01:15:57,040 --> 01:15:59,235 Gentlemen, you don't think I am a hare, do you? 765 01:15:59,400 --> 01:16:07,080 We got an approval to go and find Laputa island abroad, 766 01:16:07,240 --> 01:16:11,950 so we went to France to see Mont Saint-Michel island, 767 01:16:12,120 --> 01:16:16,352 unfortunately the situation here got a bit too complicated, 768 01:16:16,520 --> 01:16:20,672 shooting abroad was out of question and we only took some pictures. 769 01:16:20,840 --> 01:16:23,798 Later we made a collage 770 01:16:23,960 --> 01:16:33,039 of a castle in Cesky Krumlov with photos from Mont Saint-Michel 771 01:16:33,200 --> 01:16:36,510 and in the end it looked good. 772 01:16:36,680 --> 01:16:41,515 As for constructing execution machines and thinking machines, 773 01:16:41,680 --> 01:16:45,434 I introduced Juracek to my friends from a hockey team Paleta vlasti, 774 01:16:45,600 --> 01:16:49,434 they were all artists like Hugo Demartini, Bedrich Dlouhy 775 01:16:49,600 --> 01:16:57,632 and these sculptors created all these weird machines. 776 01:16:57,800 --> 01:17:01,076 Who else could visualize a thinking machine, right? 777 01:17:01,840 --> 01:17:07,756 A thinking mechanism. Hand drive. 778 01:17:10,320 --> 01:17:11,912 This is where ideas come out. 779 01:17:13,880 --> 01:17:15,677 They asked me about its capacity, 780 01:17:15,840 --> 01:17:19,389 I told them a healthy man can create up to 10000 ideas a day 781 01:17:19,560 --> 01:17:22,791 but it wasn't enough for them. 782 01:17:22,960 --> 01:17:30,196 And so someone figured this machine could be powered by a horse gear. 783 01:17:30,360 --> 01:17:35,229 They want to use a head of cattle but I won't allow this, sir. 784 01:17:35,400 --> 01:17:39,359 This machine cannot be powered by an ox. 785 01:17:39,840 --> 01:17:43,549 Pavel had big problems with finishing works 786 01:17:43,720 --> 01:17:47,838 because the normalization was getting tougher and tougher 787 01:17:48,000 --> 01:17:56,635 and more and more people were asking him to cut out this sentence 788 01:17:56,800 --> 01:18:02,670 or the whole scene and he bravely fought for both. 789 01:18:02,840 --> 01:18:05,718 I think the film is from 90% what he wanted it to be. 790 01:18:06,680 --> 01:18:11,754 Local idiot called Jump-up rode me out of Balnibar country. 791 01:18:12,880 --> 01:18:17,032 Once again I felt embarrassed and turned to this idiot: 792 01:18:17,920 --> 01:18:22,311 Listen, Jump-up, is the watch going backwards or not? 793 01:18:23,600 --> 01:18:26,876 And he replied: Come on, what is all this fuss about? 794 01:18:27,040 --> 01:18:29,554 Can't you just enjoy its ticking? 795 01:18:44,120 --> 01:18:46,714 Hanak started as a documentary filmmaker. 796 01:18:46,880 --> 01:18:48,393 In the second half of the 60's 797 01:18:48,560 --> 01:18:52,917 he made a series of great documentary essays 798 01:18:53,080 --> 01:18:59,269 and his method of gathering material, fragments of reality 799 01:18:59,440 --> 01:19:02,671 and shaping them into a new form, 800 01:19:02,840 --> 01:19:06,799 it was also reflected in his feature debut 322, 801 01:19:06,960 --> 01:19:10,270 which is extracted from a place 802 01:19:10,440 --> 01:19:13,910 between a documentary and a feature film. 803 01:19:14,800 --> 01:19:18,475 Citizens, for crossing the road use zebras only. 804 01:19:20,320 --> 01:19:26,873 Lady in a black coat, yes, you, walk back. And try again. 805 01:19:27,640 --> 01:19:29,949 Young lady, is this what they taught you at school? 806 01:19:31,800 --> 01:19:36,828 This does not apply to you. Don't smoke on a street. 807 01:19:39,320 --> 01:19:48,479 I was stroke by Jan Johanides and his book Privacy. 808 01:19:48,640 --> 01:19:51,757 I guess I'd read the book once but very thoroughly 809 01:19:51,920 --> 01:19:54,992 and I didn't want to read it ever again 810 01:19:55,160 --> 01:19:58,436 because I was so fascinated by its story. 811 01:19:58,600 --> 01:20:03,310 The main character gets into an extreme situation 812 01:20:03,480 --> 01:20:08,474 and has to recapitulate and reevaluate his whole life 813 01:20:08,640 --> 01:20:11,632 so it wasn't just me who felt this way back then. 814 01:20:11,800 --> 01:20:14,837 The whole society needed it. 815 01:20:15,000 --> 01:20:23,032 And I wanted to preserve a spirit of Johanides' story. 816 01:20:23,200 --> 01:20:26,397 He trusted me and let me do things my way. 817 01:20:43,880 --> 01:20:48,032 I filmed Johanides' work, 818 01:20:48,200 --> 01:20:51,556 he was full of authentic experiences and I felt it too, 819 01:20:51,720 --> 01:20:59,991 it was an image of Bratislava as I knew it in the early 60's. 820 01:21:00,160 --> 01:21:03,391 The main shift in the story was 821 01:21:03,560 --> 01:21:09,112 that the main character in the film was a communist 822 01:21:09,280 --> 01:21:14,832 which was not very in, especially in The New Wave, 823 01:21:15,000 --> 01:21:20,358 and as I talked to my two Czech colleagues they flinched a bit. 824 01:21:21,480 --> 01:21:23,596 Where does Maria Valkova lie? 825 01:21:24,440 --> 01:21:28,069 Valkova? If she lied in the East part, she's not here anymore. 826 01:21:28,240 --> 01:21:30,231 She's my mother. 827 01:21:30,400 --> 01:21:32,630 What's her name? Let me check in the book 828 01:21:36,080 --> 01:21:43,395 I personally feel very attached to Hanak's feature debut 322. 829 01:21:43,560 --> 01:21:49,999 Here the main character as well as topic are unique and uncommon 830 01:21:50,160 --> 01:21:57,032 because it is about a man who seemingly lacks all qualities 831 01:21:57,200 --> 01:22:00,397 necessary for a film character. 832 01:22:00,560 --> 01:22:04,633 He actually impersonates mediocrity, commonness 833 01:22:04,800 --> 01:22:09,828 but the more we get to know him the more we realize he is a proof 834 01:22:10,000 --> 01:22:14,630 of a drama hidden inside everybody, 835 01:22:14,800 --> 01:22:18,475 every one of us lives his big story, deals with big things. 836 01:22:22,760 --> 01:22:26,514 As for characters in my films, 837 01:22:26,680 --> 01:22:29,240 I myself wrote some of them, sometimes I had a co-writer, 838 01:22:29,400 --> 01:22:31,960 many of them were written for concrete actors. 839 01:22:32,120 --> 01:22:36,238 Mr Lohnisky used to play episodic roles in Czech films 840 01:22:36,400 --> 01:22:42,111 but I casted him into the main role and he was great. 841 01:22:42,280 --> 01:22:46,592 He didn't have to act because of his own inner authenticity. 842 01:22:46,760 --> 01:22:52,676 Mrs Vinicka, the biggest star of then East-European cinema 843 01:22:52,840 --> 01:22:57,311 was a beautiful woman and an amazing person. 844 01:22:57,480 --> 01:23:02,759 She was surprised when I told her not to act but to believe 845 01:23:02,920 --> 01:23:11,316 even though her partner was Mr Abrham whom I admired. 846 01:23:11,480 --> 01:23:12,993 He was just fantastic. 847 01:23:16,880 --> 01:23:25,515 Many of the non-actors who worked on my films, 848 01:23:25,680 --> 01:23:30,549 they'd speak in their own words, live their own lives, 849 01:23:30,720 --> 01:23:35,555 like Vlado Weiser who couldn't be listed as a co-writer 850 01:23:35,720 --> 01:23:45,834 but the words and situations come from his own life 851 01:23:49,040 --> 01:23:51,918 - Are you a boy or a girl? - A human being. 852 01:23:52,080 --> 01:23:56,119 - Don't be cheeky, your ID. - What's this? Are you on duty? 853 01:23:56,280 --> 01:23:58,919 - No. - Well, come with me, then. 854 01:23:59,520 --> 01:24:03,638 It was by a documentary style of shooting 855 01:24:03,800 --> 01:24:10,148 that The New Wave contributed to innovating feature films. 856 01:24:10,320 --> 01:24:14,632 Feature films were in a crisis 857 01:24:14,800 --> 01:24:24,471 and documentaries helped bring them back to life. 858 01:24:58,440 --> 01:25:02,718 Celebration in the Botanic Garden is the only film which defies 859 01:25:02,880 --> 01:25:13,791 the tendencies to portray gloomy and skeptical visions of 1969. 860 01:25:13,960 --> 01:25:20,229 It is a powerful geyser of joy of life and playfulness 861 01:25:20,400 --> 01:25:26,953 which assembles student mischief from Havetta's school years, 862 01:25:27,120 --> 01:25:31,477 world of flower children, slapstick. 863 01:25:31,640 --> 01:25:39,957 It is a paradox that this playful and nostalgically optimistic film 864 01:25:40,120 --> 01:25:47,549 was made by the first one to pay for normalization. 865 01:25:48,200 --> 01:25:50,873 Havetta died in 1975. 866 01:26:09,280 --> 01:26:12,636 Celebration is a different film 867 01:26:12,800 --> 01:26:17,794 and today when we speak about a postmodern type of film, 868 01:26:17,960 --> 01:26:23,398 Celebration shows many features of something that came much later 869 01:26:23,560 --> 01:26:26,518 and nobody understood it. 870 01:26:26,680 --> 01:26:34,997 Although now we appreciate Havetta's faithfulness to his country, 871 01:26:35,160 --> 01:26:41,429 his childhood, his home, he was not accepted in his times. 872 01:26:41,600 --> 01:26:46,196 He was accused of using Czech instead of Slovak humor. 873 01:26:46,360 --> 01:26:51,639 There were those who loved and those who hated this kind of film. 874 01:26:51,800 --> 01:26:54,917 Among those who hated it 875 01:26:55,080 --> 01:27:01,428 were rather those whom I considered friends or fans. 876 01:27:07,000 --> 01:27:12,597 We loved what they called an intimate, or naive art, 877 01:27:12,760 --> 01:27:15,877 a kind of mystical art, a direct relationship. 878 01:27:16,400 --> 01:27:22,794 See, mystique creates a direct relationship between a man and God. 879 01:27:22,960 --> 01:27:28,273 And this direct relationship to sources with a mystical aspect, 880 01:27:28,440 --> 01:27:32,718 Havetta's perception of folklore, 881 01:27:32,880 --> 01:27:38,079 it was closely connected with his strong experiences from childhood. 882 01:27:39,960 --> 01:27:49,232 A man should love his country, or his nation, to hell with this. 883 01:27:49,400 --> 01:27:52,790 We wanted to love our identity, 884 01:27:52,960 --> 01:27:57,715 something we belong to with our soul, with our tradition 885 01:27:57,880 --> 01:28:00,189 and it was much more important. 886 01:28:00,360 --> 01:28:05,229 This is what folklore is about, a creative need to exist, 887 01:28:05,400 --> 01:28:11,999 to return to something original like light, soil, trees, water. 888 01:28:12,160 --> 01:28:25,073 Something pagan which at the same time contains instructions for use 889 01:28:25,240 --> 01:28:29,392 but it does not lack the intensity of the original experience. 890 01:28:29,560 --> 01:28:38,070 That's why there are bees, trees, a botanic garden, wine, euphoria, 891 01:28:38,240 --> 01:28:40,470 an enthusiasm about life itself. 892 01:28:40,640 --> 01:28:43,393 This enthusiasm is not biased, it is purely original. 893 01:28:45,120 --> 01:28:46,439 You, take a look at yourself. 894 01:28:50,520 --> 01:28:53,034 Now I've got the job, pension 895 01:28:54,560 --> 01:28:59,270 Havetta was choosing from Slovak actors and went for those 896 01:28:59,440 --> 01:29:02,193 who were capable of an instant expressive acting. 897 01:29:02,360 --> 01:29:06,956 He tried Blazkovic and it was the right guess. 898 01:29:07,120 --> 01:29:08,439 I'm fed up with this. 899 01:29:10,480 --> 01:29:11,993 How do I look, huh? 900 01:29:12,480 --> 01:29:16,155 Then there were non-actors, people he knew from his village, 901 01:29:16,320 --> 01:29:22,589 or people he met somewhere, some of his friends, often artists. 902 01:29:22,760 --> 01:29:28,153 Artists are capable of fooling around in a very honest way. 903 01:29:33,200 --> 01:29:39,548 The circumstances of shooting Celebration in the Botanic Garden 904 01:29:39,720 --> 01:29:46,034 were congenial, they wrote it, shot it and lived with it 905 01:29:46,200 --> 01:29:49,431 just as if they were celebrating in the botanic garden. 906 01:29:49,600 --> 01:29:54,037 The title not only expresses what they meant to say 907 01:29:54,200 --> 01:29:59,069 but also their attitude towards their lives, work, methods, 908 01:29:59,240 --> 01:30:05,156 it's all in the title and the crew lived up to it. 909 01:30:05,320 --> 01:30:11,998 During the shooting it was often more important for filmmakers 910 01:30:12,160 --> 01:30:18,952 to get Vladimir Popovic paint a wall in the background 911 01:30:19,120 --> 01:30:25,355 than to control actors in the first plan. 912 01:30:27,920 --> 01:30:31,469 I have always been fascinated 913 01:30:31,640 --> 01:30:37,795 by the absolute freedom in this film which is so hard to achieve. 914 01:30:37,960 --> 01:30:43,239 It is easy to be playful in your life but it's so hard in art 915 01:30:43,400 --> 01:30:48,190 because of all the conventions and rules you learn at school, 916 01:30:48,360 --> 01:30:50,635 from colleagues, other films. 917 01:30:50,800 --> 01:30:59,833 Havetta's ability to set himself free when making Celebration 918 01:31:00,000 --> 01:31:03,436 was the most important thing to me, it was a geyser of freedom 919 01:31:03,600 --> 01:31:05,397 with no limitations whatsoever. 920 01:31:37,320 --> 01:31:40,596 All those characters were my friends or people I knew, 921 01:31:40,760 --> 01:31:45,675 my mum would collect material for me, I'd visit her very often 922 01:31:45,840 --> 01:31:49,389 and went see those people as well. 923 01:31:49,560 --> 01:31:56,432 The main character Frantisek Slimacek died in the age of 92. 924 01:31:56,600 --> 01:31:59,831 He was the real hero of Countrymen 925 01:32:00,000 --> 01:32:02,753 because he experienced it and I got to know him. 926 01:32:02,920 --> 01:32:04,831 My dad was his teacher. 927 01:32:11,360 --> 01:32:13,874 Dyer Otcenas chairman of KSC, 928 01:32:14,040 --> 01:32:17,112 smallholder Zejvala, chairman of a minority co-op 929 01:32:17,280 --> 01:32:19,919 and foreman Macala, the municipal secretary 930 01:32:20,080 --> 01:32:22,992 have taken up authority with all implications 931 01:32:23,160 --> 01:32:25,799 and the world has split into two. 932 01:32:25,960 --> 01:32:29,635 I was driving with Jasny through Vysocina hills 933 01:32:29,800 --> 01:32:31,631 where he wanted to find it. 934 01:32:31,800 --> 01:32:33,711 For two weeks he'd talk about stars and pipes 935 01:32:33,880 --> 01:32:35,916 but we never found anything. 936 01:32:36,080 --> 01:32:39,197 But then Carda Kucera appeared 937 01:32:39,360 --> 01:32:46,436 and I'll never forget our trip to the cartographic institute 938 01:32:46,600 --> 01:32:53,597 where they showed him all their postcards 939 01:32:53,760 --> 01:32:58,231 and he rummages in the pile of pictures for almost an hour, 940 01:32:58,400 --> 01:33:02,359 then he picked three postcards, put them on a table 941 01:33:02,520 --> 01:33:05,512 and the first location portrayed eventually became our location, 942 01:33:05,680 --> 01:33:06,795 a village Bystra by Policka. 943 01:33:07,480 --> 01:33:11,109 When we agreed on the title, that was it, the horseshoe, 944 01:33:11,280 --> 01:33:13,396 even visually it was a perfect fit. 945 01:33:13,560 --> 01:33:20,477 It was early evening and I started to dance with joy there 946 01:33:20,640 --> 01:33:25,839 and as I was dancing, people started to leave the pub, 947 01:33:26,000 --> 01:33:28,195 one of them was Mr Uncovsky, 948 01:33:28,360 --> 01:33:32,148 who later became my advisor, a director of local amateur actors. 949 01:33:32,320 --> 01:33:35,437 Mr Uncovsky, can we do it here? 950 01:33:35,600 --> 01:33:37,431 And he said: You can do whatever you want to. 951 01:33:41,960 --> 01:33:45,191 We didn't talk too much and Kucera said: 952 01:33:45,360 --> 01:33:49,114 Vojta, speaking of Countrymen, 953 01:33:49,280 --> 01:33:59,110 do you want to use a perspective camera like Toland in Citizen Kane? 954 01:33:59,280 --> 01:34:08,678 I said: No, I want a flat picture, the way gothic paintings are done. 955 01:34:08,840 --> 01:34:12,276 Jarda said he would have to order a zoom lens from Paris 956 01:34:12,440 --> 01:34:15,034 and that's how we shot landscapes. 957 01:34:15,200 --> 01:34:18,397 He was in charge of the visual aspect of this film, 958 01:34:18,560 --> 01:34:25,432 I'd just say I wanted a close-up or a mid shot, or a wide shot 959 01:34:25,600 --> 01:34:30,913 but I'd leave the composition up to him because he did it great. 960 01:34:31,440 --> 01:34:33,749 Release our vicar, he's innocent. 961 01:34:34,920 --> 01:34:39,277 You won't tell us who is or isn't innocent. It will go to show. 962 01:34:40,160 --> 01:34:43,516 He is innocent and if you don't release him, 963 01:34:44,600 --> 01:34:49,037 we'll arrange another gathering from all around this place. 964 01:34:50,080 --> 01:34:54,870 I wanted my characters to speak in a Moravian dialect. 965 01:34:55,040 --> 01:34:59,033 In the first version of the script I wrote dialogues in Kelc dialect 966 01:34:59,200 --> 01:35:03,955 and my wife Kveta said she didn't understand it. 967 01:35:04,120 --> 01:35:11,993 That slang was incomprehensible so I wrote it in Czech. 968 01:35:12,160 --> 01:35:15,277 Babkal and Brodsky came from Moravia, 969 01:35:15,440 --> 01:35:18,193 they were capable of making the language distinctive. 970 01:35:18,360 --> 01:35:24,879 Mensik used his own, Brno slang. 971 01:35:29,280 --> 01:35:32,238 And Matuska was the best for me. 972 01:35:32,400 --> 01:35:36,188 Some people told me to cast a real actor 973 01:35:36,360 --> 01:35:38,237 but Matuska did a great job. 974 01:35:38,400 --> 01:35:43,269 As he is saying goodbye to his dead wife, it came out almost biblical, 975 01:35:43,440 --> 01:35:49,231 as it is shot with the zoom lens as the dead girl is leaving him 976 01:35:49,400 --> 01:35:55,748 who had danced with him one last time, told him he'd leave soon 977 01:35:55,920 --> 01:35:59,913 and then he gets killed by the bull. That's how it actually happened. 978 01:36:08,200 --> 01:36:10,953 I've always loved masks, 979 01:36:11,120 --> 01:36:16,513 I went to Vienna and there they had all kinds of magazines. 980 01:36:16,680 --> 01:36:19,911 Suddenly I found a magazine with pictures of masks 981 01:36:20,080 --> 01:36:23,470 which are still being made in Austria, Germany and Switzerland. 982 01:36:23,640 --> 01:36:26,632 So I took the magazine, 983 01:36:26,800 --> 01:36:33,672 found two ladies who made the masks at Barrandov costume department. 984 01:36:33,840 --> 01:36:37,071 I wanted to have Death there. 985 01:36:42,480 --> 01:36:44,914 The first version was three and a half hours long. 986 01:36:45,080 --> 01:36:49,596 After I immigrated they destroyed it and the copy has disappeared. 987 01:36:49,760 --> 01:36:54,914 President of Cannes film festival saw the copy, he was my fan, 988 01:36:55,080 --> 01:37:01,235 and after watching the film he cried and told me: 989 01:37:01,400 --> 01:37:04,915 Jasny, you've got to cut the film down to two hours 990 01:37:05,080 --> 01:37:08,595 because you have no publicity, no money, you have nothing. 991 01:37:08,760 --> 01:37:17,190 So I went to see my friend, editor Jan Kucera at FAMU 992 01:37:17,360 --> 01:37:21,751 and asked him how to edit it. 993 01:37:21,920 --> 01:37:25,151 He had seen it a hundred times, gave me some instructions 994 01:37:25,320 --> 01:37:29,108 and I used 90% of them. 995 01:37:29,640 --> 01:37:31,039 A glass of rye. 996 01:37:39,000 --> 01:37:40,433 Politics is a bitch. 997 01:37:40,600 --> 01:37:45,993 I'm telling you there must be war. People will be fighting each other 998 01:37:46,160 --> 01:37:48,310 until there is nothing but a cow and a fanner left 999 01:37:48,480 --> 01:37:51,472 and these two will found better generations. 1000 01:37:51,640 --> 01:37:58,876 All My Good Countrymen is a summary as well as a reconciliation 1001 01:37:59,040 --> 01:38:04,831 which came in a time when everything started from a scratch. 1002 01:38:05,000 --> 01:38:09,312 The first public screening took place in July 1969 1003 01:38:09,480 --> 01:38:12,278 when normalization was beginning. 1004 01:38:12,440 --> 01:38:14,670 In the next few months 1005 01:38:14,840 --> 01:38:18,116 the whole Czechoslovak New Wave will be dispersed, 1006 01:38:18,280 --> 01:38:22,956 some will immigrate, some will never get to make films anymore, 1007 01:38:23,120 --> 01:38:25,634 others will make films after long years of silence, 1008 01:38:25,800 --> 01:38:31,079 some will bend down, others will stand straight 1009 01:38:31,240 --> 01:38:34,755 but one thing is sure, a myth came into existence here. 1010 01:38:34,920 --> 01:38:38,595 A myth which did not have enough time to fade away, 1011 01:38:38,760 --> 01:38:40,910 neither to be properly evaluated. 1012 01:38:41,760 --> 01:38:44,718 I just popped in by chance, I have a concert in Olomouc. 1013 01:38:44,880 --> 01:38:48,793 I wanted to talk to my dad, I didn't know. 1014 01:38:49,680 --> 01:38:51,557 What was he saying lately? 1015 01:38:52,680 --> 01:38:53,908 He said he shouldn't have accepted it. 1016 01:38:55,200 --> 01:38:57,953 He believed they would get together, he accepted it 1017 01:38:58,120 --> 01:39:02,796 and ended up alone again. When he felt lonely, he'd say: 1018 01:39:02,960 --> 01:39:07,511 Go and listen if there is anybody singing in the field 1019 01:39:08,040 --> 01:39:16,550 The main importance of the sixties is connected with national identity. 1020 01:39:16,720 --> 01:39:24,195 I think that the reaction to the Soviet invasion 1021 01:39:24,360 --> 01:39:30,993 was much stronger than it would have been 1022 01:39:31,160 --> 01:39:35,836 without the Czechoslovak film of the sixties. 1023 01:39:36,000 --> 01:39:43,839 Because many people saw the films and they felt as if they knew us. 1024 01:39:44,000 --> 01:39:49,279 I think that the profit which came with the films 1025 01:39:49,440 --> 01:39:58,872 was not only financial, we profited on countless levels. 1026 01:40:00,440 --> 01:40:03,432 But one thing is for sure, 1027 01:40:03,600 --> 01:40:08,116 this country is much better off when it supports its film 1028 01:40:08,280 --> 01:40:09,838 than when it does not. 1029 01:40:10,000 --> 01:40:14,357 This is your Rhodos, this is where you can frolick. 1030 01:40:15,480 --> 01:40:18,916 Let's eat what we've baked. 1031 01:40:20,600 --> 01:40:26,232 But what is it that we've baked? 1032 01:40:28,080 --> 01:40:31,868 What could we have done? What couldn't we? 1033 01:40:35,520 --> 01:40:39,957 Farewell, my good countrymen. 1034 01:40:42,400 --> 01:40:47,474 Farewell and if we were never to see each other again. 1035 01:40:49,960 --> 01:40:53,430 May our fate be fulfilled.